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360 rad in a 240 rad spot?

post #1 of 18
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hey everyone, i'm wanting to keep my 360 rad inside my case that i have picked out, and i'm on a budget, so I cant afford a $200 case that has a spot for a 360 rad.

Anyway, the top of my case has a spot for a 240 rad, and I was wondering how much of a performance hit I would take if I kept the rad inside, and basically would only have 2 fans drawing air though the radiator. I'm not too sure on clearance atm, but it might be possible to do a Push/Pull system if space allows (mid size case) and if there is alot of room, I might could make a spacer of some sort, so there is space between the top of the rad, and the top of the case.

Cutting up the case is not an option.

http://raidmax.com/chassis/platinum.html

case i'm planning on buying


and for those asking why put a full loop in a cheap-o case, well, i only paid $100 for a block, res/pump, 360 rad, so i'm not just cheaping out on the case, just trying to keep this thing under 2 grand, which i'm sure i'm already over.
post #2 of 18
? Cheap way to hang rad off the back or put it on top of case. LINK
Even better way but cost a little more LINK Maybe ???
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post #3 of 18
If you've only got fans on 2/3rds of your radiator, it's only going to cool (roughly) 2/3rds as well.

What might work is, like you said, put a spacer between the top of the case and the rad so air from the forward 1/3rd of the rad can move through. I doubt you'd be able to do push/pull, so just use three fans on the underside of the rad. You do need three fans if you expect it to perform like a triple rad, however.
post #4 of 18

Heat dissipation is directly proportional to the surface area.  If only 240 out of 360 has ventilation, the performance loss is a substantial 33%. 

 

I would strongly suggest investigating the possibility of putting the 360 rad vertically to the front of the case.  Of course, this means that you will sacrifice all harddisk spaces and have only one optical bay drive left.  If you only use one DVD drive and can relocate your harddrive(s) to other locations (eg on the case floor), this might be an option.

 

Pic 1: showing the front with the panel off. 

raidmax platinum front.jpg

 

Pic 2: showing the interior with the 2 harddisk cages which are removable

raidmax platinum harddisk cages.jpg

 

Pic 3: showing a removed harddisk cage

raidmax platinum drive cage.jpg

 

 

Raidmax Platinum has ample space at the top of case to do push-pull. 

See more pictures here:-

http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=264702&pg=1

 


Edited by windfire - 2/9/12 at 7:45am
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 
actually I do have little alluminum brackets to hang the rad off the back, but the main reason i'm wanting to keep it internal is to clean up all the fan wires that would be showing from the fans, and the fans that I'm using on the rad have LED's, so they are a bit bright.

Basically, the biggest requirement for the case's i'm looking at must be clean and professional looking
( going in an office ) and must look elegant, and the cases i've found that can hold a 360 are either really flashy gamer stuff, or out of my budget, or just really low quality ( non painted interiors, etc ) for the price.

if the store has the case, i'm gonna grab it ( says they have it in stock )

I do have an idea for trying to mount the rad to the front of the case ( look at the case pics and you might can see my idea ) but i have to look at the case in person before I can confirm if it will work or not. if not, i'll just see about mounting it to the top, worst case, mount externally, and maybe sleeve the wires or something.

Those parts you posted look nice, but if i were going to spend $50 for mounting hardware, i could just put that 50 towards a bigger case that would hold all my stuff, and unfortunately, thats not an option right now.

( i aslo have a grudge against frozencpu.com, 2 goofed orders, and terrible shipping policy, they contract with Fed ex, and fed ex does not deliver to my area, took two weeks to send me my order, and they sent me the wrong stuff, and my package was absolutely crushed, and they used a box larger than a shoe box to mail something that could easily have been shipped in a soap box *end rant* )

EDIT: WINDFIRE, i was thinking of doing exactly that, and the one free slot is fine, as I don't use a DVD drive, thanks for the pics, i have not seen those yet. it looks like your/mine/our idea will work perfectly, the only thing is my rez/pump is a 2 slot unit, but I can easily re-wire a switch to the back to turn the computer on, since i never use the front USB's, and have an audio card.
Edited by ClaytonGFinley - 2/9/12 at 7:52am
post #6 of 18
Wouldn't a 360 rad fit on the front?

e: Nvm, beat me to it.
post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
yeah, i really like the case, i currently have a cooler maser HAF, but its big, ugly, and terribly set up internals don't allow me to either mount the rad to the top or front, so externally only for that, and its a dust magnet, and no painted interior, poor cable management, and the tooless drive bays are cheap, flimsy, and just poor. I hate that case lol
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by ClaytonGFinley View Post

yeah, i really like the case, i currently have a cooler maser HAF, but its big, ugly, and terribly set up internals don't allow me to either mount the rad to the top or front, so externally only for that, and its a dust magnet, and no painted interior, poor cable management, and the tooless drive bays are cheap, flimsy, and just poor. I hate that case lol

Meh, the case is what you make it.a55ffee2-eed2-9aff.jpg it could have better cable management, but oh well.

To the op, if you are willing to hack and slash, why not cut a hole for your third fan slot above where your DVD drive would be and add a shroud on top?

Edit: saw the no cutting statement.

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Edited by rockosmodlife - 2/9/12 at 8:29am
post #9 of 18
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I could attempt at cutting up the case, I know I COULD cut it up to make it work, but it wouldn't turn out close to what I would be wanting, now, if i still lived with my parents and had access to my shop, then I would probably attempted at building a Nice wooden case, but my tools are limited.

and I hate painting cases, its so hard to do right, and for $100, cases interiors should be painted if they have any type of viewing window or large vents.
post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by ClaytonGFinley View Post

and I hate painting cases, its so hard to do right, and for $100, cases interiors should be painted if they have any type of viewing window or large vents.

Try telling that to Silverstone who offers a $350 ( TJ07 ) without a painted interior. thumb.gif

It really should be hard cutting a fan whole for the third fan. Then just pain the cut lines so they don't rust over time, and cover with radiator grill.
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