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Make sure to use at least 10 layers for a more sturdy hat.
There have been many archeologists if not all of them that agree there are watermarks on the Pyramid as well as the Sphinx. The debate is where they came from when it hasn't rained heavily enough to cause such erosion in over 10,000 years. And coincidentally enough there is also Salt found inside of the pyramid from when the area was flooded *or something*. wink.gif

Which is why google only brings up bottom of the barrel, amateur, ufo-riddled sites and not professional journals in the field of archaeology when I look that up, right? rolleyes.gif
    
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Which is why google only brings up bottom of the barrel, amateur, ufo-riddled sites and not professional journals in the field of archaeology when I look that up, right? rolleyes.gif

Find me an explanation in a professional journal in the field of archeology of the watermarks on the Great Pyramid of Giza, and I will gladly apologize for wasting your time.

If you would like another reference to absurd facts people overlook please look into our troops over in Afghanistan protecting poppy fields for the governments profiteering in drugs since over 90% of the worlds poppy is grown there, Or not. rolleyes.gif
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I read the first few pages and wanted to get into the discussion, then I skipped to this last page and read the above posts. What the heck guys?
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lol... aliens man. aliens. lachen.gif
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We can use the waste for Thorium type reactors and then you will be left with nothing!(no waste!)
     
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Find me an explanation in a professional journal in the field of archeology of the watermarks on the Great Pyramid of Giza, and I will gladly apologize for wasting your time.

Do I really have to point out that you're asking me to find what I asked (implied) you to find? I couldn't find any journal articles involving watermarks on the pyramids. That was the point of that post.

You know what? Fine.

http://unimelb.libguides.com/content.php?pid=86612&sid=644357

http://www.jstor.org/stable/1506380?&Search=yes&searchText=sphinx&searchText=erosion&list=hide&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dsphinx%2Berosion%26gw%3Djtx%26acc%3Don%26prq%3Dwater%2Bmark%2Bpyramid%26Search%3DSearch%26hp%3D25%26wc%3Don&prevSearch=&item=1&ttl=323&returnArticleService=showFullText

This provides the much more likely explanation of capillary rise of groundwater as well as condensation at night. This would also explain the presence of salts in the rock. This is quite an interesting paper, as a matter of fact.

That's the best I can do. If you want to enlighten us and present something other than ufo/crystal/free energy/other independent geocities-type crackpot websites, be my guest.
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Ignorance is bliss. The truth you believe and cling to makes you unavailable to hear anything new.
Yeah, like the government is going to tell you which NUCLEAR plants are leaking and how bad they are leaking so they can intentionally cause panic and fear in the population. You have no idea what the fallout (no pun intended) is of announcing this type of news to the public do you? People who live around these plants will hit the streets in protest like they did in Fukushima and in Germany. What the government needs now is order, not panic and confusion.
Need me to toss a rope to the bottom of the well for you? World is much bigger up here.
Oh, I'm not going to dig up old news, just the RECENT ones.
San Onofre Nuclear Plant Closed After Radiation Leak (Feb 1, 2012 6:20pm) - ABCNews
Leaking & Damaged Nuclear Power Plants In The US Exposed (February 5, 2012)
Radioactive tritium leaks found at 48 US nuke sites (6/21/2011) - MSNBC
'You got pipes that have been buried underground for 30 or 40 years, and they've never been inspected,' whistleblower says
An investigation reveals that 75% of US nuclear plants are leaking radioactive tritium into the environment and US drinking water supplies being detected at levels up to 750 times legal limits. (June 22, 2011 at 10:26 am)
Radioactive leaks found at 75% of US nuke sites (June 21, 2011 8:45 AM) - CBSNews
Guess mainstream news is in on the "conspiracy" too. kookoo.gif
Let me know when you want that rope, ok? or did you want the Red Pill?

And here's what you can take away from this. From a source you just linked:
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While most leaks have been found within plant boundaries, some have migrated offsite. But none is known to have reached public water supplies.

And how much pollution from coal plants or others have migrated outside of plant boundaries and affected drinking water? Much more than none...
Nuclear remains clean and efficient. Any leaky plants I blame on nuclear proliferation, we stopped building and updating nuclear plants 30 years ago, it's pathetic. 4th Gen nuclear is extremely clean and safe, with no possibility of meltdown, it's sad that we live in a world of ignorance where people cannot accept this.
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Nuclear remains clean and efficient. Any leaky plants I blame on nuclear proliferation, we stopped building and updating nuclear plants 30 years ago, it's pathetic. 4th Gen nuclear is extremely clean and safe, with no possibility of meltdown, it's sad that we live in a world of ignorance where people cannot accept this.

The United States did not stop updating nuclear plants for 30 years. Unlike Japan, USA reactor containment buildings were updated to not be vulnerable to hydrogen explosion after Three Mile Island. Though apparently the NRC decided to drop that requirement a year ago.
Gen III reactors are barely being implemented, much less Gen IV. I have not seen a safety analysis report for a single Gen IV reactor that said 0.00% chance of meltdown, though if you have I don't mind reading. Molten salt reactors might not meltdown in the conventional manner, since the fuel is molten, however a leakage in the fuel pipe would be the same as a meltdown.
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The United States did not stop updating nuclear plants for 30 years. Unlike Japan, USA reactor containment buildings were updated to not be vulnerable to hydrogen explosion after Three Mile Island. Though apparently the NRC decided to drop that requirement a year ago.
Gen III reactors are barely being implemented, much less Gen IV. I have not seen a safety analysis report for a single Gen IV reactor that said 0.00% chance of meltdown, though if you have I don't mind reading. Molten salt reactors might not meltdown in the conventional manner, since the fuel is molten, however a leakage in the fuel pipe would be the same as a meltdown.

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/spring01/reactors.html
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The Pebble Bed Modular Reactor (PBMR), now under development by the South African company Eskom, is shown here with its main power system and support systems.

As described in the Nuclear Report, the PBMR and its cousin, the General Atomics GT-MHR, are both helium-cooled high-temperature reactors with direct-cycle gas turbines, which eliminate the conventional steam cycle. These reactors encase the nuclear fuel in tiny ceramic spheres (instead of the familiar domed containment buildings of conventional nuclear plants).

The two designs have inherent and passive safety features, which make them meltdown proof: In brief, the reactor’s design prevents it from getting hot enough to split open the fuel particles. If there is a coolant failure, the reactor shuts down on its own, without any human intervention necessary.

The major differences in the PBMR and GT-MHR designs are in the type of fuel assembly, and the amount of power produced. The fuel for the GT-MHR is shaped into rods, while the PBMR fuel is fashioned into tennis-ball-sized “pebbles.” The PBMR is 112 megawatts electric, while the GT-MHR is 285 MWe.

PBMR fuel consists of tiny particles of uranium oxide, coated with layers of ceramics and silicon carbide, forming an impenetrable barrier, which contains the fuel. The particles are then mixed with graphite and molded into pebbles, about 310,000 of which fill the reactor vessel. An additional 120,000 graphite balls serve as moderator.
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Do I really have to point out that you're asking me to find what I asked (implied) you to find? I couldn't find any journal articles involving watermarks on the pyramids. That was the point of that post.
You know what? Fine.
http://unimelb.libguides.com/content.php?pid=86612&sid=644357
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1506380?&Search=yes&searchText=sphinx&searchText=erosion&list=hide&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dsphinx%2Berosion%26gw%3Djtx%26acc%3Don%26prq%3Dwater%2Bmark%2Bpyramid%26Search%3DSearch%26hp%3D25%26wc%3Don&prevSearch=&item=1&ttl=323&returnArticleService=showFullText
This provides the much more likely explanation of capillary rise of groundwater as well as condensation at night. This would also explain the presence of salts in the rock. This is quite an interesting paper, as a matter of fact.
That's the best I can do. If you want to enlighten us and present something other than ufo/crystal/free energy/other independent geocities-type crackpot websites, be my guest.

First of all, Off Topic... sort of. This actually reinforces my point of people not taking someones "word for it" and having such vast amounts of information right at their fingertips. So kudos for that.

I completely agree with you that groundwater and condensation are possible explanations. I don't have time to do in-depth research as I am currently at work but will jot down some finds.

More recent German climatologists Rudolph Kuper and Stefan Kröpelin claim that 'we' may have miscalculated when rain fall last occurred in that area and there may have been rain as late as Dynasty 4 (2613 to 2494 BC).
Robert M. Schoch, a geologist and associate professor of natural science at the College of General Studies at Boston University "Points out that fragile mudbrick structures nearby, indisputably dated to Dynasties I and II, have survived relatively undamaged, indicating that no heavy rainfall has occurred in the region since the Early Dynastic Period, and nor was any heavy rain anticipated by those Early Dynastic Period communities who built those structures."

So really I mean obviously some theories are possible, but there is also evidence that counters one another. Never the less there is obviously ongoing debate about what really went down. I for one really wish that the 115,000 some odd casing stones were not removed in the 1300's or 1600's during the Cairo earthquake in order to rebuild the city and fortresses, as they were all inscribed and all of those inscriptions were removed. Who knows what stories they told. People also claim that there must be evidence of the earlier civilization in order for it to be even a possibility. But if it happened to be as old as the last rainfall what would really be left after exfoliation from sand and the rest would be buried as the vegetation surrounding the area would have decomposed on top of it theoretically. I mean we really do find new structures that have been buried all the time that change what we have written in history. For me there is just not enough factual evidence of one side or the other for a theory to be ruled out. There are many architectural structures across the globe that we can't for sure figure out how they did it, yet we have smartphones.
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