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Haha, I'm pretty excited for it too. I've no idea why they call it qHD, but technically speaking HD is 720p and Full HD is 1080p, and then you've got Full HD Plus at 1440p, and Quad Full HD at 4320p. (I'm joking about the third one.)
It's called qHD because it has 1/4 of the pixels of full HD (1920x1080).
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PC games and mobile games aren't anywhere near the same quality. Apple should be able to use an SGX543MP6 and get frame rates that are good enough to match the 4S, however we may see Apple use a PowerVR 600 series GPU which are incredibly powerful.
I still doubt that any mobile processor could power a screen of that resolution so far.

The article also states that it has 3 connectors instead of 2, I'm going to assume that this is to support the extra bandwidth required for all of the new pixels. The old iPad screen needed 2 connectors for 786,432 pixels; the new screen (according to the article) will have 3,145,728 pixels (exactly 4 times the current number of pixels). So they multiplied the display connector bandwidth by 1.5 for 4 times the pixels? Something doesn't seem right about that to me. Lets assume that a single connector can run 524,288 pixels (2/3 of the current resolution, which is reasonable IMO), then 3 connectors would be able to run 1,572,864 pixels (around half of the rumored pixel count). That amount of pixels is just over the amount given by UVGA (1280x960 or 1,228,800 pixels) and a bit under UXGA (1600x1200 or 1,920,000 pixels). Thats assuming that the connector wasn't redesigned to allow for more bandwidth (which I'm assuming it wasn't, otherwise the article would've mentioned that it was different). I hope that proves my point that it isn't possible for the iPad 3 to have such a high density resolution given the current state of mobile technology.
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It's called qHD because it has 1/4 of the pixels of full HD (1920x1080).
Ah, I see. Thanks, I was thinking "Q" stood for quad, which made no sense, but "quarter" fits.
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I still doubt that any mobile processor could power a screen of that resolution so far.
The processor isn't really a factor in this at all. If you want a simple example, you can hook an iPad 2 up to an HDTV and run Real Racing 2 which is rendered at 1080p (not upscaled) at 30 FPS all while using the display on the iPad 2 as a real time map.
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The article also states that it has 3 connectors instead of 2, I'm going to assume that this is to support the extra bandwidth required for all of the new pixels. The old iPad screen needed 2 connectors for 786,432 pixels; the new screen (according to the article) will have 3,145,728 pixels (exactly 4 times the current number of pixels). So they multiplied the display connector bandwidth by 1.5 for 4 times the pixels? Something doesn't seem right about that to me. Lets assume that a single connector can run 524,288 pixels (2/3 of the current resolution, which is reasonable IMO), then 3 connectors would be able to run 1,572,864 pixels (around half of the rumored pixel count). That amount of pixels is just over the amount given by UVGA (1280x960 or 1,228,800 pixels) and a bit under UXGA (1600x1200 or 1,920,000 pixels). Thats assuming that the connector wasn't redesigned to allow for more bandwidth (which I'm assuming it wasn't, otherwise the article would've mentioned that it was different). I hope that proves my point that it isn't possible for the iPad 3 to have such a high density resolution given the current state of mobile technology.
You assume that two display connectors are only able to power 1 million pixels, which neither of us know. All we know is, that there are three display connectors now, instead of two, and I can assure you they won't do a minor bump in resolution -- that brings a whole lot of problems with really no gain at all.

Plus, there's already some support in iOS 5 for an iPad with a retina display -- there are some images used in the UI, etc., with 2048x1536 versions.
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You assume that two display connectors are only able to power 1 million pixels, which neither of us know. All we know is, that there are three display connectors now, instead of two, and I can assure you they won't do a minor bump in resolution -- that brings a whole lot of problems with really no gain at all.
Plus, there's already some support in iOS 5 for an iPad with a retina display -- there are some images used in the UI, etc., with 2048x1536 versions.

Except that they use 2 connectors to power the display, meaning that a single connector wouldn't be able to provide the bandwidth required (otherwise they would only have 1 connector which would lower the cost and increase their profit).
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What I want to know is, why isn't Apple using embedded displayport for their devices? I mean, they ARE one of the few companies even pushing DisplayPort.
 
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Except that they use 2 connectors to power the display, meaning that a single connector wouldn't be able to provide the bandwidth required (otherwise they would only have 1 connector which would lower the cost and increase their profit).

we don't know what each of the connectors do
im taking the opposite point and saying that 1536 x 2048, no other thing possible
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Except that they use 2 connectors to power the display, meaning that a single connector wouldn't be able to provide the bandwidth required (otherwise they would only have 1 connector which would lower the cost and increase their profit).
That's a good point but ultimately we don't know what these connectors do. I might add, Samsung came out with a 2560x1600 6 inch PenTile display a while back, that's more pixels... so there would have to be a way to use it.
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It's still 4:3 because of the reason they chose a a 4:3 ratio in the first place, it's ideal for all kinds of use whereas 16:9 (or 16:10) is great for movies and games, but not so much anything else, such as books or web browsing, and it gives you a very awkward portrait mode, unlike 4:3 which is great for books, web browsing, games, and good for movies.
I don't really see the Tegra 3's GPU handling any games at 1200p though.

you don't see the tegra 3 do it? Why? don't dorget it's far far far better than the ipad. and even the ipad 9 won't be that powerfull..
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you don't see the tegra 3 do it? Why? don't dorget it's far far far better than the ipad. and even the ipad 9 won't be that powerfull..
Haha lol, yep thumb.gif
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you don't see the tegra 3 do it? Why? don't dorget it's far far far better than the ipad. and even the ipad 9 won't be that powerfull..

ipads and iphones generally have the fastest graphics chips out of all the mobile processors. The iPad 2 is by far the best tabley (bought and returned a transformer and playbook before getting one), but I have tons of trouble believing this particular rumor...
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Because there time would be better spent bringing it to laptops, than to a platform where it will be almost entirely irrelevant?
Heck I can't even really get 1080p on a 13" laptop currently.

It is amazing how few people on OCN understand viewing distance and it's effect on how people see pixels. Hint: You cannot see pixels on a decent laptop screen at 17" at normal viewing range, and you can on an iPad. Increased pixel density on something that you cannot already see individual pixels on is just about worthless. Also you don't hold a laptop screen 9-12" from your face.

This is literally the 10th time I've explained this in the last 6 months on OCN.
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