Originally Posted by FlipBack
Well, initially I just wanted something bigger as over the past couple of months my in/360 has double. And then I thought maybe getting a cloth pad could be a good idea as I have never had one. I really enjoy how smooth and fast the 9HD is, but I do think I would be willing to sacrifice a little
speed for more control.
Bigger than 9HD
Not significantly slower
Hmmmm...... well the fastest pads that I have used would be the Hayate and the G-TF Speed. Since you italicized "a little" I take it that you would really like the fastest cloth available. The first thing that you should know is that going from plastic to cloth you will give up some speed no matter what pad you go to. The pad that you would give up the least amount of speed with would be the G-TF Speed though. It also is a very hard cloth pad and I really even have a hard time calling it a true cloth pad for that matter.
This pad breaks down a little like this...Hardness
-- almost as hard as the 9HD, nearly no give at all but it still has woven fibers on top, even if they are very thin they still give a tiny
-- Fast, very fast. As close to a plastic pad as you can get with cloth reallyBase
-- If you have a glossy desk your mousepad will deathgrip it for you, if not then you will have to deal with it sliding around. It does not slide just a little, I mean there is almost no grip unless you put a decent amount of force down on your mousing hand or use weights to keep it from sliding.Top Layer
-- A little rough, very rough for a cloth pad but not so much for a plastic pad. Your mouse feet will probably only wear a little, especially not much compared to a plastic pad.Control
-- Like any pad that is almost as hard and fast as a cloth pad, it has almost as little control. Not much, but definitely more than plastic.
On the other hand I am thinking that you, like me, just simply have not tried a nice cloth pad or have not gotten used to one. In that case I would say that you should go for the G-TF. It is still a very fast cloth pad, and once you get used to it you will really start to love it. You will not even think about going back to plastic pads (at least that is what happened to me).
This pad is like this....Hardness
-- A little more firm than any other standard cloth pad (I hope you have tried at least one, or have an old rubber mousepad you can use to know what I mean). Rubber inside means it is plush, but still a little firm for a cloth pad. Like a firmer Qck.Speed
-- Fast for a cloth pad, but you will notice resistance when you are coming from a plastic pad. Once you get used to it it will feel very nice to stop on though.Base
-- Kind of a cheap rubber if you ask me. It will stick the same to just about everything, but it will not stick as well as you might hope. The stick can best be described as how rubber might stick to something when it gets a little dirty. It is still rubber though, so it is not easy to move, there are just better bases out there.Top Layer
-- Really it is almost identical to the Speed version. Maybe a little smoother which will mean more resistance and a little slower of a speed. I think most of the speed differences are because it is more squishy than the Speed though, not because of the top layer. I would say that it still classifies as rough though.Control
-- Offers good control. There are slower pads that have more but there are few with the level of control it has for the speed it offers. Very good control for the speed group that it is a part of.
Lastly, as I have said before my favorite pad is the Hayate by far and if you decide you want to spend the money on it then that would be your best bet. It is fast like the G-TF Speed and much smoother, sticks to whatever you put it on, and the control with it is the best out of the three after you have used it for a while and your mouse feet have gotten polished from the pad.
This pad is like this....Hardness
-- Hard to describe really. Is VERY similar to the G-TF, however there is a difference in how they squish down when force is applied, but not much difference in the actual force needed. Lets see...
The G-TF makes this shape when pressed down on
While the Hayate is more like this
Where  is your finger pressing down. It seems like the Hayate spreads out less and just sort of "hugs" what is being pressed into it, while the G-TF makes sort of a little crater like a normal mousepad.Speed
-- Fast of course. Faster than the G-TF. Not as fast as the G-TF speed but very close.Base
-- Never really felt one like it before. Feels like it wont really stick to anything but then it does and never lets go. If you leave it down on your desk for a while it actually starts to literally stick to it like a sticker. Although it is still very easy to take off when you want to and does not leave residue since there is none to leave.Top Layer
-- Very smooth! Like moving your mouse over butter. Silent as well and feels very nice to move the mouse over. No harshness to speak of like there is with the G-TF's a little and a lot with plastic pads.Control
-- Very good control. It is hard to describe since it is different than other pads. Since the speed is very high it feels like there is not much control, but when you want to stop suddenly the pad sticks the mouse in place at the very last second. I make it seem like it sticks when you move it and stop it but really that is not what happens. The stick is very small and only happens at the last second. A good way of describing it is that it is very good at stopping your mouse when you want to stop, but is very easy to overcome when you want to move your mouse. It really makes you have great control over the mouse and you do not notice it much at all. This is on the G-TF, but it is much less pronounced and feels more like your mouse is a boulder that is being slowed down quickly rather than suddenly being stopped at the last second. The G-TF Speed does not really have this effect much at all. Plastic pads do not have it.
All these pads are much larger than the 9HD and I find them to be a good size. I play with the Zowie AM on the lowest setting (450CPI, although most say this is not correct and it is actually closer to 490CPI) on default Quake Live sensitivity. It seems to be ~8.75in/360.
WHEW! That was quite a post. I think that I will use some of that in the review that I do sometime down the line!
Anyways, for the conclusion, the best pad for you IMO would be the G-TF Speed. At least it will be the best until you can get used to cloth pads more, then I would recommend you getting the Hayate hands-down. The only problem with the Speed is that it most likely will not stick to your desk at all. Because of this I would recommend you getting the Hayate. It would be a little slower than what you are used to and it would feel weird with the way it gives good control since you are used to pads that have almost none, but once you got used to it you would really like it.
Lastly, there is the G-TF. It is the slowest of the three and you will most likely like it the least, but you will get used to it and I am sure you will like it after trying it out for a week. It is still very fast for a cloth pad so it would not take long to get used to compared to most other cloth pads. It also would stay on your desk better than the G-TF Speed.
Basically you have to decide based on a few things...
G-TF Speed: It will not stick to your desk and will slide around (unless you have a glossy material to put it on). Is that a big deal to you? Can you solve it with books on the corners or something and have them not bother you?
G-TF: It is the slowest of the three. Coming from plastic pads it will be the hardest to get used to.
I think that you will like any of these pads, but you need to decide what you want to sacrifice right now for one of them. If you would like me to explain anything better or to just give it another shot at explaining a certain part to help you understand what I mean just ask!