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Fixed.
My Lightning clocks like crap. rolleyes.gif

And my regular MSI PMD1G R5670 was able to go from 700MHz to 1060MHz.You just never know.
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Finally a 7950 with a proper heatsink!

I think the Twin Frozr cards will never change their looks, all in all looks like an amazing card.
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Sorting chips by their ability to clock to a certain speed is the definition of binning. Therefore Lightnings ARE binned. The end.

Don't you find it interesting that MSI Alex says they are not binned though?
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Don't you find it interesting that MSI Alex says they are not binned though?

He said they were binned in a post quoted two pages ago. He just said that binning does not guarantee a higher overclock, though it is my personal opinion that the process makes higher priced cards more likely to clock well...
post #75 of 85
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He said they were binned in a post quoted two pages ago. He just said that binning does not guarantee a higher overclock, though it is my personal opinion that the process makes higher priced cards more likely to clock well...

Well, he said

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I am just posting screen shots of what MSI Alex said.
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I love how he says there is NO binning process right before he goes on to define what a binning process is! A process that sorts gpu's into tiers by determining if they "meet a certain IQC (internal quality control) spec" and "if they meet that spec they are used in the top tier product" is exactly what binning is. Does MSIAlex himself not understand what binning means?
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This isn't a beauty pageant. TFIIIs are amazingly efficient and quiet coolers, and that's all that matters to most. If you're entering your PC into a competition for aesthetics then you wouldn't be going air cooling anyways. I can't believe some of you people that will completely turn your back on a card because it isn't "pretty" enough for you. Come on...rolleyes.gif

Thats the point. Asthetics


Let me use a different topic...

Would you rather have a BLUE PCB or a black one??

I would rather have a black one tongue.gif
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post #78 of 85
Oh this thread has turned into something ugly...
As all of you said, somehow yet you still disagree with each other, they are binned or "tested" to see if it runs at a specific clock and ensure stability. That is binning, but also they are not "binned" to see if they overclock more or not. It would take ages and require alot of testing and money.

If chips were all binned all of them should hit similar frequency, +- a few MHZ, but its not the case so chips are not binned by their ability to OC. Chips are binned by their ability to run on a specific frequency and insuring stability and longevity.
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OChips are binned by their ability to run on a specific frequency and insuring stability and longevity.

Yes.

No one said chips were binned by their overclockability. NO ONE. I've had personal experience where lightnings clock extremely well, but no one said anything was guaranteed. And of course a hardware rep/employee is going to go out of his way to not gaurantee anything. That will always be the follow up for liability reasons.

Binning is sorting the best chips by hitting the required frequency at a specific voltage. That's usually the case with the ultra high end cards. Most definitely the ROG Asus cards, unless you want to tell me Asus is lieing about that. Lightnings are similar, but regardless. The point is manufactures do sometimes bin on their high end cards. And people need to learn the definition of chip binning.
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Who gives a flying f*** if they binned or not???, Its an epic card nuff said, Some of you nerds needs need to go read another encyclopedia
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