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I want to buy a new SSD soon, but haven't been keeping up with the new drives. So: what's the fastest non-sandforce drive these days?
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Depend on your definition of fastest, some are slightly faster in reads and some are faster in writes. You really can't go wrong with any, especially since even though in benches they performance better or worse than one another they all perform relatively the same.

All of these are worthy.
  • Crucial M4
  • Samsung 830
  • Corsair Performance Pro
  • Plextor M3 Series
  • Intel 510

The M4 is only $147 atm here: http://www.buy.com/prod/crucial-128gb-m4-2-5-sata-iii-mlc-internal-solid-state-drive/221150373.html
With this $10 off coupon: http://www.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=82955137&&

It is the best deal atm.
post #3 of 16
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Cool. Does the Micron controller also slow down to crap when dealing with compressed data like Sandforce does?
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Originally Posted by Manyak View Post

Cool. Does the Micron controller also slow down to crap when dealing with compressed data like Sandforce does?

Nope, they are fast with both compressible and in-compressible data.

Here are some comparison of the drives, I know these are not from the same systems, but they are about average for each drive. All are 128/120GB drives. You can see the difference b/w the Sandforce and non-SandForce drives pretty easily. Plus you don't have to worry about reliability issues. wink.gif
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Crucial M4
501

Samsung 830
501

Corsair Performance Pro
511

Plextor M3 Series
501

Here is a bench of some SandForce drives:
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Corsair Force GT
479

Kingston Hyper X
512

Vertex 3 Max IOPs
511

Patriot Wildfire
511

Also, IDK how much you know about SSDs, but here are two threads to look over.
post #5 of 16
If data security is important your might want to take AnandTech's advice and wait 6-12 months to see if the mfgs. sort out the Bugs.

All the major brands seem to have or had issues with compatibility or reliability issues resulting in lost data, BSOD, reduced drive capacity, RMA's, auto rebooting, numerous firmware updates, etc. If data security is not important than any of the current generation SATA 6 GB/s model SSD's will work fine. If you have an older 3 GB/s SATA port than you can run either the previous models or current models with some performance loss on the SATA 3 GB/s port.

http://www.storagereview.com/reviews

Don't let the benchmarks fool you as you won't see much difference in real world use between the various models and brands.
Edited by AMD4ME - 2/10/12 at 7:37pm
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If data security is important your might want to take AnandTech's advice and wait 6-12 months to see if the mfgs. sort out the Bugs.

All the major brands seem to have or had issues with compatibility or reliability issues resulting in lost data, BSOD, reduced drive capacity, RMA's, auto rebooting, numerous firmware updates, etc. If data security is not important than any of the current generation SATA 6 GB/s model SSD's will work fine. If you have an older 3 GB/s SATA port than you can run either the previous models or current models with some performance loss on the SATA 3 GB/s port.

Don't let the benchmarks fool you as you won't see much difference in real world use between the various models and brands.

http://www.storagereview.com/reviews

For data security, who doesn't have a backup solution? I personally have 5 fail safes for my data.

Yea, but what matters is the customer support and product support. SandForce does not have that yet. LSI has taken SandForce over now so that is a sign of good to come, but it will probably be about a year like you said for them to be more reliable and have the bugs out for the most part, but it took SandForce over 6 months a issue that still isn't fully fixed and it took Crucial ~a few weeks to fix their issue the the 5200hr BSOD bug and it took Samsung a few weeks to fix their hibernation issue (i think it was hibernation) and a week to fix the other issue after that.

And remember, all products go under constant updating and fixing even as they sell as a final product, there will always be revisions. At least purchase a product with proper support. Shoot Corsair SandForce drives have to be updated via Windows 7, and if you are in RAID you have to reinstall and update in ahci or do it in another rig! There isn't much of an alternative. Crucial drives for example can easily be updated before the OS environment with a simple iso installer, it is much easier for the user.

Why wait say a year when you can be enjoying a relatively reliable and fast SSD now? I've never had data loss or issues with my drives. And some haven't even had any with their SandForce.
post #7 of 16
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I'm not new to SSDs at all - I was one of the early adopters even, and I currently have around 7 of them in various PC's around the house. I was also the first person on this site to ever RAID them on a dedicated (non-bottlenecked!) controller, and if you search you should find my 1GB/s+ benchmarks with Intel G2's tongue.gif. I just haven't kept up with them in the past few months is all. But thanks for the links anyway smile.gif

There is another option, which is to stick with my Intel 80GB G2's until the next gen of SSDs. I just wanted to upgrade for more room. Though the M4 looks pretty damn tempting.
Edited by Manyak - 2/11/12 at 6:25am
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post #8 of 16
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I'm not new to SSDs at all - I was one of the early adopters even, and I currently have around 7 of them in various PC's around the house. I was also the first person on this site to ever RAID them on a dedicated (non-bottlenecked!) controller, and if you search you should find my 1GB/s+ benchmarks with Intel G2's tongue.gif. I just haven't kept up with them in the past few months is all. But thanks for the links anyway smile.gif

There is another option, which is to stick with my Intel 80GB G2's until the next gen of SSDs. I just wanted to upgrade for more room. Though the M4 looks pretty damn tempting.

I’m not saying it’s going to be good or bad… but it will be “new”:

If you have some time to wait... OCZ should have some new drives out by Q2 based on their own Indilinx - Everest controller. Not too much "real" info (other than some rumors/preliminary testing), and a recent launch of an LG notebook with an SSD using the controller, that shows real promise.

With OCZ’s acquisition of Indilinx, this will be the first OCZ launch, with their own firmware/SSD combo. If you recall OCZ’s original barefoot drive, that was a partnership with Indilinx that was pretty successful in the early stages of SSD.

OCZ hopes to fix some of the “bad publicity” they have received with some of the problems they have had with their past controller partners by bringing it in-house.
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post #9 of 16
Not trying to thread jack, but I hate making separate threads for similar topics:

I'm not really sure which SSD I should put in my MacBook Pro 13" - I already have a 750GB WD Black drive in it, but I want a nice boot drive. I've narrowed it down to a few choice drives, but I'm still not sure which one would be the best to get as I can't find a ton of reviews on the 64GB versions and know that they tend to differ in performance from the typically reviewed 128GB drives.

Here is the list:

Patriot Pyro 64Gb - $94 ($69 AMIR)
Crucial M4 64GB - $99
OCZ Agility 3 64GB - $99 ($74 AMIR)
OCZ Vertex 3 64GB - $119 (99 AMIR)
Samsung 830 64GB - $109

and then on the Radar

OCZ Petrol 120GB - $130 ($99 AMIR)

Keep going back and forth between which ones I should get and can't quite decide smile.gif Some of them look plain good just because of the MIR - too many choices smile.gif
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Mushkin Chronos Deluxe (sync) series, and Patriot ones works flawless. Also a nice one should be the Intel 520 series (all SF2281 based), non sandfore the Crucial M4 should be fine...
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