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My mobo/ram/cpu in my server is fairly old.. I have a gig of DDR 3200 (I think?) RAM and that's basically as much as it will hold. I have a newer mobo/cpu/ram that my parents gave me, but I figure if I put that in, like with a regular windows install, I should reinstall WHS. If I'm going to do that, I should probably just upgrade to WHY 2011. So my question is, can I do that without it deleting everything on my server? I have one hdd with my OS on it, then the rest of my hdds have my info on it. I assume that there is a way to do it without losing all of my stuff, and hopefully I'm making sense..lol Thanks for any help in advance!
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My mobo/ram/cpu in my server is fairly old.. I have a gig of DDR 3200 (I think?) RAM and that's basically as much as it will hold. I have a newer mobo/cpu/ram that my parents gave me, but I figure if I put that in, like with a regular windows install, I should reinstall WHS. If I'm going to do that, I should probably just upgrade to WHY 2011. So my question is, can I do that without it deleting everything on my server? I have one hdd with my OS on it, then the rest of my hdds have my info on it. I assume that there is a way to do it without losing all of my stuff, and hopefully I'm making sense..lol Thanks for any help in advance!

Then just reinstall without your drives that contain the information, you'll be fine
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I just swapped over from WHS to WHS 2011, and it is a bit of a pain, but not real bad.

How many hdd (and size) and how much total space used.

What I did was make a backup of everything on a spare drive (I have 2 2tb drives and a 640 gig drive, I took 1 of the 2 tb drives out of the drive pool and used it for backup). I installed WHS 2011 on the 640 gig drive with the 2 tb drive in also. I then moved all the folders from the 640 gig drive onto the 2 tb drive. I then took the backup drive and copied all the data over to the 2 tb drive.

It may be possible to keep your storage on a single drive, then move the storage folders onto it and then copy the files over.



So far I really have not seen any big difference in "upgrading" to 2011, but I was doing some upgrading so figured like you why not.
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I just swapped over from WHS to WHS 2011, and it is a bit of a pain, but not real bad.
How many hdd (and size) and how much total space used.
What I did was make a backup of everything on a spare drive (I have 2 2tb drives and a 640 gig drive, I took 1 of the 2 tb drives out of the drive pool and used it for backup). I installed WHS 2011 on the 640 gig drive with the 2 tb drive in also. I then moved all the folders from the 640 gig drive onto the 2 tb drive. I then took the backup drive and copied all the data over to the 2 tb drive.
It may be possible to keep your storage on a single drive, then move the storage folders onto it and then copy the files over.
So far I really have not seen any big difference in "upgrading" to 2011, but I was doing some upgrading so figured like you why not.

Hmmm... I've got about 8TBs with 5TBs used between 5 drives not counting the OS drive. So that might be tough. I was only considering upgrading because the mobo and CPU is fairly old. But I guess as long as it holds up I'll be fine. Thanks for the info! thumb.gif
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I assume you realize WHS 2011 doesn't have the drive pool built in any longer...? So all the drives won't be striped together as one big volume for you with an easy removal of any drive... mad.gif

I have not done any reading (or using) of WHS for a long while but that is the last I heard about 2011. There's third party drive pool stuff though.

Something to keep in mind when switching to 2011. Also, no in-place upgrade path for moving for v1 to 2011 (it's xp-based server 2003 to vista or 7-based server 2008/R2). If you don't have a reason to move to the new version and you aren't planning to go past the ~3.5 gig RAM barrier I would argue against moving...my unsolicited 2cents.gif
 
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I assume you realize WHS 2011 doesn't have the drive pool built in any longer...? So all the drives won't be striped together as one big volume for you with an easy removal of any drive... mad.gif
I have not done any reading (or using) of WHS for a long while but that is the last I heard about 2011. There's third party drive pool stuff though.
Something to keep in mind when switching to 2011. Also, no in-place upgrade path for moving for v1 to 2011 (it's xp-based server 2003 to vista or 7-based server 2008/R2). If you don't have a reason to move to the new version and you aren't planning to go past the ~3.5 gig RAM barrier I would argue against moving...my unsolicited 2cents.gif

Hmm.. I guess this is all true. Quick question. If one of my drives fail, I lose all of the data that is on that one drive, correct? (As in it doesn't have a software RAID 5 or something already in place right?)
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Hmm.. I guess this is all true. Quick question. If one of my drives fail, I lose all of the data that is on that one drive, correct? (As in it doesn't have a software RAID 5 or something already in place right?)

Well yes...and that actually is/was true of WHS v1 with drive pool unless folders (and/or files? been a while) were flagged for duplicated on more than one physical drive. Another advantage of drive pool.

On server 2008 (from which whs 2011 was derived) there is a software RAID 5 (same as vista/7). And RAID 5 will allow for one drive failure in the array (doing this from memory, pretty sure that's right). I really liked the drive pool thing on account of the utility it gave you for auto-moving all the data off of an apparently failing drive (which it would alert me to) and how easy it was to add a new drive to the pool at your option...I had to do this quite a bit ya see...

With RAID 5 you have the redundancy but not that "auto-magic" that made drive pool so cool.

Keep in mind as you read the above i haven't actually used whs 2011 at all. No idea what is or is not automated through a fancy GUI or what OEMs have added to it...
 
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Ok. So if I flag folders to be duplicated, I'm covered for the most part?
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I'm using WHS 2011 and using the built-in software based drive mirroring across two 1.5 TB drives for all my important data, and a mirror of two 2 TB drives for movies. This allows for a drive to fail, but only get one drive worth of storage.

I have not had any performance loss or problems with the software mirror.
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Ok. So if I flag folders to be duplicated, I'm covered for the most part?

At least of WHS v1 and assuming my memory is good....that is correct... smile.gif

Course if you really wanted to get complicated you could try virtualizing WHS like I've been working on semi-regularly rolleyes.gif
 
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Intel Ivy Bridge Core i7-3630QM nVidia GeForce GTX 680M 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) Hard Drive: Serial-ATA II 3GB/s 
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Hard Drive: Serial-ATA II 3GB/s Windows 10 Pro x64 17.3" FHD 16:9 (1920x1080) Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell) 
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Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio 
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Intel Core i7 860 Biostar T5 XE Radeon HD 5870 Corsair 16GB  
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Western Digital hard drive wd1001fals-00e8b0 Maxtor 300GB I don't need no stinking optical drive Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 
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HP ZR24w 24'' Samsung SyncMaster 24" logitech wireless k360 Seventeam ST-850ZAF 850W ATX 
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Thermaltake V9 Black Edition Logitech G500 Programmable Gaming Mouse FiiO E7 USB DAC and Portable Headphone Amplifier Sennheiser HD555 Professional Headphones 
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