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I agree that legendary really isn't the word for the 470's. The 8800 line itself was legendary because the performance improvement over the GF7800/7900 skus was monumental. At stock clocks, the 470 isn't going to impress anyone. It's sleeper and has tons of untapped performance along with robust VRMs and excellent scaling even when passing a 33% overclock. Add the fact that almost every 470 can achieve stock 480 performance (570+ if you push it), leave a 560TI in the dust and can be had for 150-170 dollars, it's a phenomenal deal.
It absolutely deserves a hat tip.
Exactly.

The whole thing OP said about the 4870 being the thing to finally take it over and blah blah blah is so wrong though. The 4870 was practically a GTX 275. It was inbetween that and the GTX 260. The HD 4850 easily swept the 112 core nvidia products, like they should have for being so much newer. IDK what this dude is talking about. Although it could be a translation error since he is russian or whatever.
 
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silly arguments are silly. 470=560ti 448 core (same thing, one runs cooler). 480=570 with higher bus/bandwidth. fermi is fermi. the percent difference between the 448 core fermi's (470, 560ti 448) and the 480 core and 512 core fermi's (480, 570, 580) is understandably small. gpu's haven't made any real advances in raw performance in going on three years now. also, the 8800 ultra had no value then or now. too damn expensive for it's own good then, and just plain weak now. nice thread. as for what card is comparable to the 8800 ultra, the last one was the 8800 ultra itself tbh. not that it's a good look to compare to a viciously overpriced card that was easily matched by it's $400 variant.
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Curious, why would you quote yourself as a source?
Edit; I agree with Cat. You can't really compare an extremely overclocked near high end card to the flagship card. And as your last paragraph, what is "staying power" exactly? From what I got, you overclocked your card to make it hang with a newer card. Why can't you do the same for any card?

agreed
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silly arguments are silly. 470=560ti 448 core (same thing, one runs cooler). 480=570 with higher bus/bandwidth. fermi is fermi. the percent difference between the 448 core fermi's (470, 560ti 448) and the 480 core and 512 core fermi's (480, 570, 580) is understandably small. gpu's haven't made any real advances in raw performance in going on three years now. also, the 8800 ultra had no value then or now. too damn expensive for it's own good then, and just plain weak now. nice thread. as for what card is comparable to the 8800 ultra, the last one was the 8800 ultra itself tbh. not that it's a good look to compare to a viciously overpriced card that was easily matched by it's $400 variant.

You obviously don't know your history. There was a reason why the 8800 ultra was so expensive, just as the 7970 is now... because it DESTROYED everything else on the playing field at the time. If you wanted to save a few bucks, you'd buy the 8800GTX and OC it a bit like I did. My 8800GTX did perfectly fine up until I started playing Bad company 2. Everything before that, including fallout 3, ran like a champ on my 8800 GTX. I then updgraded to a 5870, GTX 580, CF 6970, Tri-Fire 6970, Quad-fire 6970, and now soon to be Tri-fire 7970. There are enthusiasts, and there are people who like to pinch pennies and get by with the cheapest solutions possible.
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You obviously don't know your history. There was a reason why the 8800 ultra was so expensive, just as the 7970 is now... because it DESTROYED everything else on the playing field at the time. If you wanted to save a few bucks, you'd buy the 8800GTX and OC it a bit like I did. My 8800GTX did perfectly fine up until I started playing Bad company 2. Everything before that, including fallout 3, ran like a champ on my 8800 GTX. I then updgraded to a 5870, GTX 580, CF 6970, Tri-Fire 6970, Quad-fire 6970, and now soon to be Tri-fire 7970. There are enthusiasts, and there are people who like to pinch pennies and get by with the cheapest solutions possible.

Is there a point to this post? Sadly not relevant to my post, or this thread in general. If any slight relation to my post exists in this thing you posted, it's confirmation on a $1,000 gpu's value (you got the 8800gtx). Now at least I know your history. Cool story.thumb.gif
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You obviously don't know your history. There was a reason why the 8800 ultra was so expensive, just as the 7970 is now... because it DESTROYED everything else on the playing field at the time. If you wanted to save a few bucks, you'd buy the 8800GTX and OC it a bit like I did. My 8800GTX did perfectly fine up until I started playing Bad company 2. Everything before that, including fallout 3, ran like a champ on my 8800 GTX. I then updgraded to a 5870, GTX 580, CF 6970, Tri-Fire 6970, Quad-fire 6970, and now soon to be Tri-fire 7970. There are enthusiasts, and there are people who like to pinch pennies and get by with the cheapest solutions possible.

The only problem there is ATi gave options to wax the 8800 Ultra and still save $400+. The 8800 Ultra was a joke actually in pricing vs performance and everyone knew it, all it was was a factory oc'ed 8800GTX, that's it nothing new it was G80 still.

And the 8800 Ultra did not "DESTROY" anything really to a degree when it came out for the 8800GTX already set precedence. NV just took advantage of people who thought ULTRA meant something.

And there are enthusiasts that use their brain to buy products, then there are those who have more money then brains.
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The only problem there is ATi gave options to wax the 8800 Ultra and still save $400+. The 8800 Ultra was a joke actually in pricing vs performance and everyone knew it, all it was was a factory oc'ed 8800GTX, that's it nothing new it was G80 still.

And the 8800 Ultra did not "DESTROY" anything really to a degree when it came out for the 8800GTX already set precedence. NV just took advantage of people who thought ULTRA meant something.

And there are enthusiasts that use their brain to buy products, then there are those who have more money then brains.


Now this factual, unbiased post was relevant to the ones before it. A true contribution to this thread. This is how you do it. Good job.
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The 880 line is legendary, not the ultras or gtx. Gtx was amazing, basically and underclocked ultra. In general, gtx 470 is an amazing card, but due to leak and heat it was clocked at a shy 600ish mhz, which totally killed the card. I remember back in those days, people would hunt the msi and gigabyte non-ref designs since they hit 800+ mhz on air. Making them remarkable, but just because a card oc alot and can match higher end models shouldnt be called legendary. Time has changed, and frankly speaking the gtx 470 is a lucky card. The gtx 5xx series was a "refresh" and games in general are not getting any more demanding.

Gtx 570 > gtx 470 by 15-20%. An oc could resolve this gap. A high oc can make this card match a 580 (if oced to 850+ mhz).
Gtx 280 > gtx 260 by 15-20%. An oc could resolve this gap and even could reach gtx 285.
4850 with a good oc could come close to 4870.
a gtx 460 can oc alot and surpass gtx 470 and if lucky enough will be as fast as a 480, maybe in benchmarks, until 1g frame buffer is full fps will sink.


Main point is this, games are not taking any advantage of new arch or tech or anything at all. In the last 2-3 years we havent seen demanding games like crysis. Except metro and Arma, the gtx 470 by itself is lucky for this. Had there been games that bring pcs to their knees it would have been different.

I say my OC on my 460 can match and even surpass a 470, 950 mhz isnt too shabby on a 460. But again, games are going nowhere, sadly.
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You guys do realize the 8800 Ultra was released about half a year after the 8800 GTX, right?
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If you ask me anyone who has a bias against any computer hardware company is an idiot and has way to much MONEY IN their hands.

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