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I hate it because of the the garbage collector... It has some strange behaviors is some situations... For a cross platform use, specially for inexperienced users, it's awesome! Imagine you've never "touched" a pc, if you want to use a java app you'll just copy it from wherever it was - if you already have java installed.
But I'm not a hipster here tongue.gif I don't like it manly because it's one of the worst languages for my area, I'm a true C/C++ fan when it comes to performance thumb.gif

You can't just copy a java file though. If java was a simple case of double clicking a jar file or $ java application.jar then that would be great, but you have to check that JAVA_HOME is populated, set a run time environment and all sorts. Java can be so convoluted that most of the time platform specific batch / shell scripts are included just to execute the jar. At least with Python / Perl, you can just add #!/usr/bin/perl to the top of the 1st script and have everything run as seamlessly as if it were a GCC output file.

Java tries to be a great many things and in my opinion it does all of them badly. The only good thing about Java is it teaches strict code, but most languages can - if not by default. Even Perl can: use warnings; use strict;

Obviously it's all each to their own. I'm sure some people find themselves most productive in Java. But for me there's nothing that language has to offer that I cannot do in another language and more quickly.
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You can't just copy a java file though. If java was a simple case of double clicking a jar file or $ java application.jar then that would be great, but you have to check that JAVA_HOME is populated, set a run time environment and all sorts. Java can be so convoluted that most of the time platform specific batch / shell scripts are included just to execute the jar. At least with Python / Perl, you can just add #!/usr/bin/perl to the top of the 1st script and have everything run as seamlessly as if it were a GCC output file.
Java tries to be a great many things and in my opinion it does all of them badly. The only good thing about Java is it teaches strict code, but most languages can - if not by default. Even Perl can: use warnings; use strict;
Obviously it's all each to their own. I'm sure some people find themselves most productive in Java. But for me there's nothing that language has to offer that I cannot do in another language and more quickly.

Essentially this. And I'd even go so far to say that for me at least, if there are other languages available on a platform I will do my damnedest to use those over Java every time!
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Well, I don't really have a particular one.
But I hate Java, Obj-C, and any language that Microsoft makes. That doesn't include C++, cause pure C++ is awesome.
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I have to say Java, I don't know why, I just hate it to bits.
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I hate programming in general tongue.gif.

But if I had to choose, probably Java. C/C++ makes a little more sense to me.
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I hate programming in general tongue.gif.

=(

Programming brings me great joy!

/nerd
    
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=(
Programming brings me great joy!
/nerd

It'd be cool if it was as intuitive as math for me. Every programming class I've taken in college so far has been a nightmare. I need the TA's help on almost everything frown.gif.
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Wow total opposite for me.

I never got math the way it was taught to me but programming was always intuitive. We should swap brain halfs. I have a friend who is a mathematician and he can't understand why I don't get math, he says math and programming are the same concept.
    
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It'd be cool if it was as intuitive as math for me. Every programming class I've taken in college so far has been a nightmare. I need the TA's help on almost everything frown.gif.

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Wow total opposite for me.
I never got math the way it was taught to me but programming was always intuitive. We should swap brain halfs. I have a friend who is a mathematician and he can't understand why I don't get math, he says math and programming are the same concept.

Total opposite for me! eek.gif

I seem to be good at both. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
 
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Wow total opposite for me.
I never got math the way it was taught to me but programming was always intuitive. We should swap brain halfs. I have a friend who is a mathematician and he can't understand why I don't get math, he says math and programming are the same concept.

Holy hell +1 to this, I'm the exact same as you. I suck at math, but programming feels the most natural thing ever to me. Math and programming are not the same concept at all, and once you start going higher level languages, the gap widens even more!
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