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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

If you haven't bought the RAM yet, I'd recommend these:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=1153188&sku=S204-1020
If you haven't bought the motherboard yet, I'd recommend this:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=P8P67-PRO-BO-R&cat=MBB
Yes, 1600 works fine with a 2500k. I'm at 2200 with mine. Those Samsung sticks I linked should do 2133 at 9-11-10-28...if not tighter with 1.60v. The motherboard I linked is better than the Gigabyte board you've picked out, and a WHOLE lot cheaper since its refurbished.

Out of curiosity, why do you recommend that RAM? It's timings are pretty atrocious...

EDIT:
Ah, I didn't realize that you were talking about those Samsung chips at the beginning of your post. Also didn't realize that they were running at 1.35v.
Edited by SectorNine50 - 2/13/12 at 9:09am
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The Biostar TZ68K+ is a 4 phase power system. It'll handle at most about 4.5GHz (as with the TP67B+). The ONLY Biostar board that's even remotely worth looking into is the TP67XE, as its an absolutely solid 10 phase board, that'll handle 5GHz and beyond.
I had the TP67B+, which is the same exact board as the TZ68K+ (P67 vs. z68). I also had the TP67XE, and my Asus P8P67 Pro. The TP67XE holds a very special place in my overclocking heart...

no..no..tz68k+ (i don't how biosrtar figures things) but they say it's "10 phase" ..So I'm guessing it's 8+2 :lachen.gif:

Look @ the board..count the chokes wink.gif
 
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Thanks for you replys thumb.gif

So i made some changes :

CPU: i5 2500k

MB: ASUS P8Z68-V LE RETAIL (I 'll go with the Z68 chipset )

RAM: G.SKILL F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM 8GBt 1600mhz ( I like this ram so im keeping it)

GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC - 2 GΒ (Cuz you said 1GB is not enough)

but seriously is not enough? my friend have a 5770 1 gb and plays bf3 on High..i dont have a lot money to spare, so if its not really neccesary the 2gb ill go with the Gigabyte 1Gb smile.gif

PSU: Corsair Gaming Series GS700

SSD: OCZ VTX3-25SAT3-60G 60GB VERTEX 3 SATA III 2.5'' SSD ( I 'll take 60 gb for now..i like OCZ too ^^)
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You will be able to play it on high at 60fps, with occasional dips to 40fps.
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Thanks for you replys thumb.gif
So i made some changes :
CPU: i5 2500k
MB: ASUS P8Z68-V LE RETAIL (I 'll go with the Z68 chipset )
RAM: G.SKILL F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM 8GBt 1600mhz ( I like this ram so im keeping it)
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC - 2 GΒ (Cuz you said 1GB is not enough)
but seriously is not enough? my friend have a 5770 1 gb and plays bf3 on High..i dont have a lot money to spare, so if its not really neccesary the 2gb ill go with the Gigabyte 1Gb smile.gif
PSU: Corsair Gaming Series GS700
SSD: OCZ VTX3-25SAT3-60G 60GB VERTEX 3 SATA III 2.5'' SSD ( I 'll take 60 gb for now..i like OCZ too ^^)

Really? I can't imagine he is getting very good framerates... I'm running two 5770's and I'm right around 60 FPS at "high" settings... The 560 should do fine, though.
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The Biostar TZ68K+ is a 4 phase power system. It'll handle at most about 4.5GHz (as with the TP67B+). The ONLY Biostar board that's even remotely worth looking into is the TP67XE, as its an absolutely solid 10 phase board, that'll handle 5GHz and beyond.
I had the TP67B+, which is the same exact board as the TZ68K+ (P67 vs. z68). I also had the TP67XE, and my Asus P8P67 Pro. The TP67XE holds a very special place in my overclocking heart...

no..no..tz68k+ (i don't how biosrtar figures things) but they say it's "10 phase" ..So I'm guessing it's 8+2 :lachen.gif:

Look @ the board..count the chokes wink.gif

Really? If that's the case, I'll have to take another look at them again. I could have SWORN all the z68 Biostar boards were based off the TP67B+, which is a 4 phase.
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they told me today that maybe i will get some more money for my rig so im looking on things again..

I should go with the Gen3 motherboards...is Asus P8Z68 V PRO/GEN3 good enough for future upgrades? like the i7 ivy bridge?

and i wanna go with the 448 Cores gtx 560 ti cards...but dont know which brand-model is the safest-best...im not looking or OC..i just want a stable gaming system smile.gif i found them with 1280Mb only and not 2Gb..does the extra cores cover my gaming needs?

Also the monitor i chose supports HDMI.. so i have to buy 1 HDMI cable? or the monitor/GPU includes it in the package?
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they told me today that maybe i will get some more money for my rig so im looking on things again..

I should go with the Gen3 motherboards...is Asus P8Z68 V PRO/GEN3 good enough for future upgrades? like the i7 ivy bridge?

and i wanna go with the 448 Cores gtx 560 ti cards...but dont know which brand-model is the safest-best...im not looking or OC..i just want a stable gaming system smile.gif i found them with 1280Mb only and not 2Gb..does the extra cores cover my gaming needs?

Also the monitor i chose supports HDMI.. so i have to buy 1 HDMI cable? or the monitor/GPU includes it in the package?

P8Z68 V Pro will work fine, so will the P8P67 Pro (they both support Ivy). There's also the ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 (and higher) that are a little cheaper and just as good.

The 448 core 560Ti is solid. After a slight overclock its equal to a 570. After a good overclock (which they can do) it'll equal a 580. Those cards can easily outpace a stock 580. At bone stock, its very VERY close to 570 performance. As far as brands, I prefer MSI and Asus (Twin Frozr or DirectCu). They have great cooling and an even better warranty and customer service.

If the GPU you choose as a native HDMI output, then yes you'll need an HDMI cable. Monitors usually come with VGA / DVI, and the HDMI will be seperate. The monitor would come with cables required to connect it, but HDMI is generally an optional cable you have to buy seperate (they're only like $2 at monoprice).

If the GPU does NOT have a native HDMI output, it should come with the proper adapter to convert it to HDMI...so that shouldn't be an issue.
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P8Z68 V Pro will work fine, so will the P8P67 Pro (they both support Ivy). There's also the ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 (and higher) that are a little cheaper and just as good.
The 448 core 560Ti is solid. After a slight overclock its equal to a 570. After a good overclock (which they can do) it'll equal a 580. Those cards can easily outpace a stock 580. At bone stock, its very VERY close to 570 performance. As far as brands, I prefer MSI and Asus (Twin Frozr or DirectCu). They have great cooling and an even better warranty and customer service.
If the GPU you choose as a native HDMI output, then yes you'll need an HDMI cable. Monitors usually come with VGA / DVI, and the HDMI will be seperate. The monitor would come with cables required to connect it, but HDMI is generally an optional cable you have to buy seperate (they're only like $2 at monoprice).
If the GPU does NOT have a native HDMI output, it should come with the proper adapter to convert it to HDMI...so that shouldn't be an issue.

Oh thanks for the info

I liked the Asrock and i think im getting this as long as it supports Ivy bridge..

From the GPUs i prefer the MSI cuz of the bigger stock Mhz.. and its slightly cheaper
any site for OC the GPU to make it like 570 and the 2500k? also any good cooling systems for the 2500k? (cooler master, noctua, antec..etc?)
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Hello OC community biggrin.gif
I m building a new rig and i want your opinion about the stuff i want .
So the main parts are :
CPU: i5 2500k
MB: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Should i go with this or an ASUS P8Z68?)
RAM: G.SKILL F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM 8GB 1600mhz
GPU: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 560 Ti OC 1GB
PSU: Corsair Gaming Series GS700
SSD: OCZ Agility 3 Series - 120 GB SATA 3 (Should i go with this or another brand?)
Water Cooling : Any affordable price suggestions?
And the RAM question is : Can the i5 support the 1600mhz ram? if yes, whats the settings i have to do?
Thanks, and sorry if its a repost. smile.gif

Motherboards :
cheapest to expensive
  1. ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 150$
  2. ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 190$(my recommendation)
  3. ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 200$

RAM
SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 48$
those will serve you great

GPU :
You have many choices here and have to balance your budget accordingly
and instead of going with a factory clocked GPU go with a Card with better cooler i would say like
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 235$

ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 250$
and if u dont mind spending abit more i would say go witha 6950 over GTX 560 Ti or GTX 560 TI 448

HIS IceQ X Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 250$

SAPPHIRE 100312-3L Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 260$

a 6950 could unlock to a 6970 and yield even more performance too thumb.gif

SSD :
Crucial M4 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Transfer Kit 160$

PSU :
Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze 90$

Water cooling :
XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit w/ Free Kill Coil! 130$
and something cheaper then
CORSAIR H80 95$
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