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wongwarren, which would you recommend?
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^ I prefer the Phantom over the HAF series tbh, despite me being an ex-HAFX owner. The looks just get tiring after a while.

I would get a 2600k and a Asrock Extreme4

Only 1 7970, though a 7950 will be tons of power tbh.

Low profile 8Gb of RAM which is enough.

HX850, since you seem quite keen on CFX, at least you have the juice to prepare yourself for that.

A HDD Caviar Blue is good enough. BUT I would most definitely get an SSD. 64Gb for the OS, and some apps like Chrome/iTunes as the Caviar Blue is too slow for boot imo.

For cases, you can look at Fractal Midis, which are good for a 240rad W/C.

And then get yourself a RS240 kit.

If your budget allows for more, you can get an extra 8Gb of RAM.
    
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wongwarren, which would you recommend?

Something that has proper radiator mount.. Which in both of the NZXT cases you mentioned, is non-existent.. If you wanna stick with NZXT, then the Switch 810 is definitely a true water cooler's case. If you can go with other brands as well, the HAF 932 and HAF X from Cooler Master works too.

Edit: By the way OP, an overclocked 7970 will match the performance of two 6970's in CF.
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ok so you've pretty much convinced me to go with 1 GPU.
I was thinking about the 810 but unfortunately ,they don't import it here so i can't really buy it anywhere...but it is the look i'm looking for, really elegant.
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Okay so ram is a must wink.gif And you'd like to water cool! smile.gif Size of case doesn't matter which is nice to know, my friends mini ATX case hardly fits into his room so size matters ;L haha

But anyway onto recommendations smile.gif I personally haven't water cooled so my experience isn't there but I would love to give it ago at some point. The advice I will give after going SLI with Zues is that you need to think about cooling there and WC will definitely fix that issue. The problem with my computer is that the case can't be WC'ed. So learn from my mistake and if you do go SLI/Crossfire make sure (if its air cooled) you allow space between the cards.

Also with water cooling there's allot to think about but when it comes to that you'll get plenty of help from the forums but choosing a case for WC'ing is a good idea =]

There's a wide range of cases suitable for WC'ing and the truth is any case can be WC'ed ... if you want to rip it apart and mod the hell out of it that is ;p haha

I'm not going to recommend any particular case because many cases have good and bad points and as I've mentioned if you really want to you can WC any case then you can wink.gif and maybe that's what you'd like? biggrin.gif My only recommendation is to look at as many different cases as possible from as many makers because every case offers different pros and cons wink.gif

I'd recommend looking at the big names like Silverstone, cooler master, Antec etc but there's also less well known names that offer the best solution for water cooling like mountain mods and I've been recommended the Xigmatek Elysium which is large and offers WC heaven, there's also the Cosmos II which is well known for its size wink.gif so a few names there hope it helps as much as possible smile.gif
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ok so you've pretty much convinced me to go with 1 GPU.
I was thinking about the 810 but unfortunately ,they don't import it here so i can't really buy it anywhere...but it is the look i'm looking for, really elegant.

The Cosmos II is definitely the way to go if you have the money. It looks truly elegant. And is the largest case on the market excluding Mountain Mods and Case Labs. You can fit a 360 Radiator in the top plus a 240 radiator in the bottom. If you wanna lower the price point, then the 800D is also a great water cooler's case. To me it is the most elegant case on the market (Cosmos II comes in at second on my list).
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ok so you've pretty much convinced me to go with 1 GPU.

I wouldn't be so quick to throw cross fire and SLI out the window, in many ways the idea of putting 2 or more cards together can mean you get the same amount of power for less price. I know it may feel that different people are pulling you in different directions but SLI isn't a bad idea and even if you excuse the idea, in a year or 2 down the road you may think "I need more performance now" and an easy way to do that is to SLI or crossfire smile.gif

Although if your going to get a multi-card solution I would recommend WC'ing simply because the air coolers don't perform as well as when you only have one card.

Another thing to bear in mind is to not go crazy with SLI, the card to performance gain isn't impressive if you get 3 or 4 cards. The sweet spot is getting 2 cards because it doubles the performance you'd get. Where as getting 3 cards doesn't triple the performance you get ;p
(this is guess-ta-mating not exact but it helps you understand what I mean tongue.gif)
1 card = 100% performance
2 cards = 200% performance
3 cards = 275% performance
4 cards = 300% performance (at best)
However SLI & crossfire doesn't all ways aid you, the simple fact of the matter is you'll get the power if the game developers build the game to use these technologies. But most new games do get SLI and crossfire support and in a hungry game like say BF3 the game uses the extra power you give it wink.gif

Last thing to think about with SLI & crossfire is the extra power consumption, put simply you need a PSU that'll be adequate to power the cards you get.

Remember this isn't me saying SLI is the most important thing to think about, or that you should SLI. I'm just trying to give you information that will help your decision =]
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I wouldn't be so quick to throw cross fire and SLI out the window, in many ways the idea of putting 2 or more cards together can mean you get the same amount of power for less price. I know it may feel that different people are pulling you in different directions but SLI isn't a bad idea and even if you excuse the idea, in a year or 2 down the road you may think "I need more performance now" and an easy way to do that is to SLI or crossfire smile.gif
Although if your going to get a multi-card solution I would recommend WC'ing simply because the air coolers don't perform as well as when you only have one card.
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1 card = 100% performance
2 cards = 200% performance
3 cards = 275% performance
4 cards = 300% performance (at best)
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Last thing to think about with SLI & crossfire is the extra power consumption, put simply you need a PSU that'll be adequate to power the cards you get.
Remember this isn't me saying SLI is the most important thing to think about, or that you should SLI. I'm just trying to give you information that will help your decision =]

How are you going to match a 7970 for cheaper?

even 200% is off, its lower then that. Otherwise, nice guide. But still, its hard to argue with getting a 7970 now and adding another down the line. Keeping future upgradability is a big part in making your computer furureproof.
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How are you going to match a 7970 for cheaper?
even 200% is off, its lower then that. Otherwise, nice guide. But still, its hard to argue with getting a 7970 now and adding another down the line. Keeping future upgradability is a big part in making your computer furureproof.

well if you want a 7970 for cheaper, an OC'ed 7950 gives you more power than 1 stock 7970? =p
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I think the ideal solution is one 7970 now and another one a year or two down the line..
i'm diffidently going in the direction of WC'ing the entire case, i'm currently looking at the 800d, and considering the elysium and haf942 .
the problem with the elysium is have to ship it here and the shipment alone is over 100 usd.

what do you think about the xigmatek utgard?
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