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Oh I know that, they've never hid that part. But it's not any IP theft by Frozen-Q or Barrow here because it's a different industry (Resident Evil to watercooling a computer) and it's not an invention but a trade design at most. My concern, and that of Alex's as I understand it, is that people will think those reservoirs were made by Frozen-Q. If they fail, then people will further associate this brand with negatives. He already mentioned people were asking him about those reservoirs (Barrow ones, at least) and Deepcool will be selling those cases in the US very soon.

Ya I can see where that comes from, What is the barrow one? that is what I came looking for.

I don't honestly think it should be RE's IP either to be honest as it represents a DNA strand.

Also don't understand why he would have a bad name, I got a Frozen Q reservoir and have had since they first came out I have never had any problems with it aside from the lights (which are not his fault at all.)
I guess its like I say though the ones that have an issue have the loudest mouths...

Well sir you are correct if FrozenQ built and sold a complete DNA strand and marketed as such.

But they didn't build them for that purpose. They built them to collect, store and supply coolant for the water cooling community.

They were the only company to do so. The makers of Resident Evil are not in that industry either. So there is no theft except by those in the industry that FrozenQ services.

Chevrolet could make a T Virus and repurpose it for their new Corvette and Frozen Q couldn't do anything about that unless it works exactly the same and serves a similar purpose as the Water Cooling Reservoir model that FrozenQ manufactures and sells.

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Well sir you are correct if FrozenQ built and sold a complete DNA strand and marketed as such.

But they didn't build them for that purpose. They built them to collect, store and supply coolant for the water cooling community.

They were the only company to do so. The makers of Resident Evil are not in that industry either. So there is no theft except by those in the industry that FrozenQ services.

Chevrolet could make a T Virus and repurpose it for their new Corvette and Frozen Q couldn't do anything about that unless it works exactly the same and serves a similar purpose as the Water Cooling Reservoir model that FrozenQ manufactures and sells.

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I agree I do not think there is anything wrong with Frozen Q recreating the Tvirus (which btw I will say again holds water by design it holds a liquid disease, all FQ did was add ports). Nor do I think there is anything wrong with DC making a similar reservoir, If they blatantly stole Frozen Qs design used there ports layout ect it would be different.

They didn't they made a Tvirus prop with some holes in it same as Frozen Q did, if frozen Q had a patent they would be laughed out of court. Deepcool didn't steal there patent nor there design they just made a reservoir that looks like a T Virus. Its not even a standalone reservoir, its in a case and fixed to that case, it wont even compete with Frozen Qs.
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I tried looking but does anyone know the approximate capacity for the 400mm version?
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I agree I do not think there is anything wrong with Frozen Q recreating the Tvirus (which btw I will say again holds water by design it holds a liquid disease, all FQ did was add ports). Nor do I think there is anything wrong with DC making a similar reservoir, If they blatantly stole Frozen Qs design used there ports layout ect it would be different.

They didn't they made a Tvirus prop with some holes in it same as Frozen Q did, if frozen Q had a patent they would be laughed out of court. Deepcool didn't steal there patent nor there design they just made a reservoir that looks like a T Virus. Its not even a standalone reservoir, its in a case and fixed to that case, it wont even compete with Frozen Qs.

Port layout has little to do with anything. Our last version of the res was actually exactly as theirs is. It's a reservoir, with a UV reactive helix, driven by a cold cathode UV lamp. Which is what these companies have replicated. They copied the helix design down to the exact size. Do I have protection over the design and is it enforceable? We'll that's something to be determined and and that I cannot discuss here. (Not being rude, just simply cannot discuss details of legal matters).

I'm really not even concerned about the Deepcool case. Because they are in fact, selling a case with an integrated cooling system, and the reservoir up front is a prop more than anything. Not to mention, they did something very different with the reservoir. Thinner helix, different end caps, different lighting structure.

The main issue here, apart from the design of the Barrow reservoir, is the naming from Barrow. They are marketing it as the "Barrow T Virus Reaction Helix Reservoir". Whereas our product is the LF Reaction Helix Reservoir.

As one of the other members said, my primary reason for mentioning the whole ordeal was to make people aware and limit confusion. Guaranteed people will confuse theirs for ours, and people will be beating down my door for RMA support for a reservoir we didn't produce. Or emailing asking questions about an item we didn't produce.
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I tried looking but does anyone know the approximate capacity for the 400mm version?

Approximately 325mL
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I agree I do not think there is anything wrong with Frozen Q recreating the Tvirus (which btw I will say again holds water by design it holds a liquid disease, all FQ did was add ports). Nor do I think there is anything wrong with DC making a similar reservoir, If they blatantly stole Frozen Qs design used there ports layout ect it would be different.

They didn't they made a Tvirus prop with some holes in it same as Frozen Q did, if frozen Q had a patent they would be laughed out of court. Deepcool didn't steal there patent nor there design they just made a reservoir that looks like a T Virus. Its not even a standalone reservoir, its in a case and fixed to that case, it wont even compete with Frozen Qs.

Port layout has little to do with anything. Our last version of the res was actually exactly as theirs is. It's a reservoir, with a UV reactive helix, driven by a cold cathode UV lamp. Which is what these companies have replicated. They copied the helix design down to the exact size. Do I have protection over the design and is it enforceable? We'll that's something to be determined and and that I cannot discuss here. (Not being rude, just simply cannot discuss details of legal matters).

I'm really not even concerned about the Deepcool case. Because they are in fact, selling a case with an integrated cooling system, and the reservoir up front is a prop more than anything. Not to mention, they did something very different with the reservoir. Thinner helix, different end caps, different lighting structure.

The main issue here, apart from the design of the Barrow reservoir, is the naming from Barrow. They are marketing it as the "Barrow T Virus Reaction Helix Reservoir". Whereas our product is the LF Reaction Helix Reservoir.

As one of the other members said, my primary reason for mentioning the whole ordeal was to make people aware and limit confusion. Guaranteed people will confuse theirs for ours, and people will be beating down my door for RMA support for a reservoir we didn't produce. Or emailing asking questions about an item we didn't produce.

Red Jacket (a firearms company in the South) has had people walk through their doors attempting to get warranty work done on knockoff AKs. Imagine the look on the face of the customer when the owner explains to them the differences and the shoddy work done on their AK. That's what I imagine when someone contacts your company for RMA work on a Reservoir you had nothing to do with.

Knockoffs suck for this very reason, and people are selling them through eBay, Craigslist and other vendor sites. buttkick.gif

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Port layout has little to do with anything. Our last version of the res was actually exactly as theirs is. It's a reservoir, with a UV reactive helix, driven by a cold cathode UV lamp. Which is what these companies have replicated. They copied the helix design down to the exact size. Do I have protection over the design and is it enforceable? We'll that's something to be determined and and that I cannot discuss here. (Not being rude, just simply cannot discuss details of legal matters).

I'm really not even concerned about the Deepcool case. Because they are in fact, selling a case with an integrated cooling system, and the reservoir up front is a prop more than anything. Not to mention, they did something very different with the reservoir. Thinner helix, different end caps, different lighting structure.

The main issue here, apart from the design of the Barrow reservoir, is the naming from Barrow. They are marketing it as the "Barrow T Virus Reaction Helix Reservoir". Whereas our product is the LF Reaction Helix Reservoir.

As one of the other members said, my primary reason for mentioning the whole ordeal was to make people aware and limit confusion. Guaranteed people will confuse theirs for ours, and people will be beating down my door for RMA support for a reservoir we didn't produce. Or emailing asking questions about an item we didn't produce.

Ahh okay, well ya that's the thing I was only talking about the DeepCool one not the Barrow. As you said the DeepCool does not seem to use your design.

Now if there is a barrow one that did use your design (which I defiantly believe). That is a completely diffrent matter and I am 110% on your side on that one.

That was why I asked what is this Barrow one, I have yet to see it. The confusion is being set in as the Barrow and dc are being used intertwined in a way.

None of my comments here are talking about the Barrow at all. Only the deepcool which as we both can agree on has very little similarity with yours.

Okay so i guess I should have just googled barrow tvirus lol. Anyway I was under the impression that the DCs was made by barrow or something IDK honestly. However ya that's not the resovor I refer to with any of my posts.

That Barrow is 100% a knock off, that's a completely different situation, they did in my eyes steal your IP.
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Hi Everybody.
Im french (and also new here) and im looking for a watercolling solution based on the FrozenQ reservoir in my Phantom 820 case.
Im totally a newbie about watercooling and im come here to find some help.

First of all, this is my PC :




As you can see, my 980Ti poseidon already have waterblocks, and im interesting by this reservoir :



Could you give me some advice about how to manage my circuit ? (only for the GPU)

What do you think about this following circuit ? Is it possible ? optimize ?

(Sorry, ugly paint work biggrin.gif)



Thanks
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Thanks,

And...could you explain me something...

When you choose a reservoir on the frozenQ website, there is an options for the Cathode color.
What is the diference between UV and UV LED ?

If you choose simple UV, have you effects like this ?

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