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Hey i saw spawn is 24$ on amazon and i found a xornet for 20$... im just wondering what's the diffrence between them , they look pretty much the same in shape. Wich one is better ? explain please
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1138575/cm-spawn-or-xornet-what-are-the-differences
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Xornet:

-The "Shell" or plastic mold is more flimsy. Spawn feels solid.
-The scroll wheel is of cheaper quality.
-The sensor is cheaper and isn't capable of very precise tracking quality at it's 2000 CPI step. Tracking quality or precision is best at its lowest step (500 CPI). Max speed is questionable depending on pad.
-The "control unit" or MCU is lower cost and don't have on board memory for profile storage, although you can flash firmware.
-No acceleration control nor angle snapping.
- Xornet has no drivers. Polling rate can be changed by holding down mouse 4 and 5 plus CPI buttons. 1000hz>500hz>250hz>125hz.
- Silver plated usb opposed to Gold (hehe)


Spawn:

-Continuing on from Xornet list, the 800 CPI step of the spawn isn't optimal (needs to be modified or fixed badly). 1800 CPI + windows slider is probably your best bet for that lower CPI feel (if you desire). IE. 4/11 for 900, 3/11 for 450.
- Max speed is more consistent, but it does hit negative acceleration rather early compared to similar sensor IC's if that's a concern. I personally feel this mouse performs and feels better with a higher sensitivity 360 wise. Low sens feels awkward even with slower movement IMO.
-500 CPI and 1000hz have clipping issues and result in lower max speed. It's fine if you don't move your mouse extremely fast.

Can't think of anything else, but I personally believe that the spawn is a better value if you can catch it on sale.
Edited by Skylit - 2/12/12 at 9:26am
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Skylit is kind of a resident expert, but I'd say you should wait to see what the next Spawn firmware before pulling the trigger. It's already overdue, afaik.
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Spawn:
-Continuing on from Xornet list, the 800 CPI step of the spawn isn't optimal (needs to be modified or fixed badly). 1800 CPI + windows slider is probably your best bet for that lower CPI feel (if you desire). IE. 4/11 for 900, 3/11 for 450.
- Max speed is more consistent, but it does hit negative acceleration rather early compared to similar sensor IC's if that's a concern. I personally feel this mouse performs and feels better with a higher sensitivity 360 wise. Low sens feels awkward even with slower movement IMO.
-500 CPI and 1000hz have clipping issues and result in lower max speed. It's fine if you don't move your mouse extremely fast.
Can't think of anything else, but I personally believe that the spawn is a better value if you can catch it on sale.

I'm not sure because I'm a mouse scrub, but wouldn't doing this reduce the tracking quality?
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Originally Posted by wompwomp View Post

I'm not sure because I'm a mouse scrub, but wouldn't doing this reduce the tracking quality?

No.

Reducing the slider to powers of 2 ratios will just reduce the sensibility but the tracking will be equally good.
This trick is very useful when the best cpi step of your mouse is too sensitive for your aim.
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Xornet:

-The "Shell" or plastic mold is more flimsy. Spawn feels solid.
-The scroll wheel is of cheaper quality.
-The sensor is cheaper and isn't capable of very precise tracking quality at it's 2000 CPI step. Tracking quality or precision is best at its lowest step (500 CPI). Max speed is questionable depending on pad.
-The "control unit" or MCU is lower cost and don't have on board memory for profile storage, although you can flash firmware.
-No acceleration control nor angle snapping.
- Xornet has no drivers. Polling rate can be changed by holding down mouse 4 and 5 plus CPI buttons. 1000hz>500hz>250hz>125hz.
- Silver plated usb opposed to Gold (hehe)


Spawn:

-Continuing on from Xornet list, the 800 CPI step of the spawn isn't optimal (needs to be modified or fixed badly). 1800 CPI + windows slider is probably your best bet for that lower CPI feel (if you desire). IE. 4/11 for 900, 3/11 for 450.
- Max speed is more consistent, but it does hit negative acceleration rather early compared to similar sensor IC's if that's a concern. I personally feel this mouse performs and feels better with a higher sensitivity 360 wise. Low sens feels awkward even with slower movement IMO.
-500 CPI and 1000hz have clipping issues and result in lower max speed. It's fine if you don't move your mouse extremely fast.

Can't think of anything else, but I personally believe that the spawn is a better value if you can catch it on sale.

So then coming from 65cm/360, 450dpi, 1000hz, Qck+ black cloth, Razer Abyssus:
The spawn is awkward for Low sens ? ^^^^^^^^

If I want to try CM Storm as a low sens player is the Xornet my better option?

Also I'm looking at Roccat Pyra, it has 3305DK-H sensor, I think it is OK(?) sensor.
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My spawn would malfunction all the time on VARIOUS pads, light colored or not--I played at 800 dpi, .5 sens in CS:GO, 6/11, raw input.
Which made it unusable. Gave it to a coworker.

Since replaced it with a Xornet (and eventually Naos32) and zero issues with either.

Couldn't tell the difference between the two mice other than the Spawn is "rubberized" slightly on the top and the Xornet is hard plastic.
Never had a LOD issue but I know the Naos32 has a really high LOD and it never bothers me.

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i love my xornet, the only reason i got it instead of the spawn (besides price at the time) was because of the driver-less feature.
i would go with the spawn for sure since its only $24, totally worth it.
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Originally Posted by Scharfschutzen View Post

My spawn would malfunction all the time on VARIOUS pads, light colored or not--I played at 800 dpi, .5 sens in CS:GO, 6/11, raw input.
Which made it unusable. Gave it to a coworker.

Since replaced it with a Xornet (and eventually Naos32) and zero issues with either.

Couldn't tell the difference between the two mice other than the Spawn is "rubberized" slightly on the top and the Xornet is hard plastic.
Never had a LOD issue but I know the Naos32 has a really high LOD and it never bothers me.

My REAL world results.

so if I'm understanding correctly youre post the Spawn gave you problems while the Xornet worked perfect on mousepad?
Did you ever try it on a black mousepad?
I have Qck+ black cloth.

Also youre sensitivity seems very low, I have 450dpi, 1000hz, CS:GO in game 1.58 which gives me 65cm/360.
But if you have 800 dpi, 0.5 then that sounds like 100cm/360?

Maybe I will give either spawn or xornet a try smile.gif

So you replaced youre Xornet with Naos 3200?
Seems like Naos 3200 is one of the biggest mouse made while Spawn/Xornet is one of the smaller ones(but wide).
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

i love my xornet, the only reason i got it instead of the spawn (besides price at the time) was because of the driver-less feature.
i would go with the spawn for sure since its only $24, totally worth it.

I think the Xornet comes with 500dpi which I think is better for CS
Edited by grandpatzer - 4/21/13 at 5:51am
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