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$120-$150.

This is per machine right? You can't just spend $30 and upgrade 1000 machines? You have to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade your work computers and pay for the right to call Microsoft to re-activate your existing machines every time you make a slight change to each computer?
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This is per machine right? You can't just spend $30 and upgrade 1000 machines? You have to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade your work computers and pay for the right to call Microsoft to re-activate your existing machines every time you make a slight change to each computer?

Yes, per machine if you're buying at retail price, I'm sure there is a discount for bulk licenses. And how often are upgrades necessary for a desktop PC? Just about never, by the time the OS is obsolete so is the hardware. I'm not sure what kind of changes you're talking about, I've changed hard drives, GPUs, CPU, and amount of RAM without having to call Microsoft to re-activate.
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Yes, per machine if you're buying at retail price, I'm sure there is a discount for bulk licenses. And how often are upgrades necessary for a desktop PC? Just about never, by the time the OS is obsolete so is the hardware. I'm not sure what kind of changes you're talking about, I've changed hard drives, GPUs, CPU, and amount of RAM without having to call Microsoft to re-activate.

Not everyone is single user with just one computer. Asking why you need to update outdated and unsupported systems that won't receive security updates or patches in a business environment isn't very smart. I don't know if you remember having to pay $450 for Vista in the US and €600 in the UK for Vista. I can only hope Microsoft doesn't try to gouge us as much this time around for a couple minor changes to the same Vista kernel.
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These quite a few under-the-hood changes would be:
? They reduced WiFi searching time, modified an existing RAID storage technology, and moved system restore to the installation directory rather than the disc.... Wow, that's so extensive and warrants a new version number. I guess modifying the existing "Ribbon" is a multitude of improvements too. All of this should be put in a service pack upgrade for existing customers. Or at least not charge us hundreds of dollars. Do you really feel like paying for this upgrade?

I'm guessing you have never programmed anything in your life.

Everything doesn't have to be important to you for it to have been completely rewritten to be many times more efficient and bring more features than the previous iteration.

Windows 8 ran much better than 7 on my laptop, except some sleep problems. Might look similar to Windows 7 because it was the dev preview, but it was very obvious that there were a ton of changes under the hood.
    
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Not everyone is single user with just one computer. Asking why you need to update outdated and unsupported systems that won't receive security updates or patches in a business environment isn't very smart. I don't know if you remember having to pay $450 for Vista in the US and €600 in the UK for Vista. I can only hope Microsoft doesn't try to gouge us as much this time around for a couple minor changes to the same Vista kernel.

From what i see,Windows XP is still getting updates and fixes,so I don't see your point.In fact,a lot of businesses still use XP.What is the big deal about releasing a new OS that is designed from the start for mobile and desktop?Look at the big picture,not just your limited view.No one is forcing you to upgrade anything.
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I'm guessing you have never programmed anything in your life.
Everything doesn't have to be important to you for it to have been completely rewritten to be many times more efficient and bring more features than the previous iteration.
Windows 8 ran much better than 7 on my laptop, except some sleep problems. Might look similar to Windows 7 because it was the dev preview, but it was very obvious that there were a ton of changes under the hood.

It's not about the couple of new features being important to me. Your subjective view of 8 running "much better" is merely a placebo. It's 8 so it must be better than 7. Not being able to sleep isn't relevant to how it runs? You're going to try and tell me I've never programmed anything in my life but claim that it has been completely rewritten from the top down?
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It's not about the couple of new features being important to me. Your subjective view of 8 running "much better" is merely a placebo. It's 8 so it must be better than 7. Not being able to sleep isn't relevant to how it runs? You're going to try and tell me I've never programmed anything in my life but claim that it has been completely rewritten from the top down?

My point was that it doesn't have to drop your jaw for it to be completely rewritten or for there to be massive changes behind the scenes.
    
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Make an option to disable Metro UI. It's horrible on PC!
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My point was that it doesn't have to drop your jaw for it to be completely rewritten or for there to be massive changes behind the scenes.

That's the point I'm making. It's not completely rewritten by any means. They cleaned up the code, sure. That's not massive changes though. It's a service pack upgrade. Or at least let existing users upgrade for $20-50 for ALL of their machines.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 2/13/12 at 12:57pm
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This is per machine right? You can't just spend $30 and upgrade 1000 machines? You have to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade your work computers and pay for the right to call Microsoft to re-activate your existing machines every time you make a slight change to each computer?


Yeah, except that OS X's EULA states one computer per copy, hence you need to spend $30,000 to upgrade 1000 machines. If you've been using your OS X DVD in that manner then, well...wink.gif

 

Also, the activation call is automated and takes like, 1 minute. Big deal.

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