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Ubuntu has become far too bloated. I have a dual-boot Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7 Started set up on my netbook and I can honestly say, Ubuntu FAR more sluggishly than does Windows 7. It's quite unbelievable actually; the reason I installed Ubuntu because I thought it would be more nimble than Windows.
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Ubuntu has become far too bloated. I have a dual-boot Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7 Started set up on my netbook and I can honestly say, Ubuntu FAR more sluggishly than does Windows 7. It's quite unbelievable actually; the reason I installed Ubuntu because I thought it would be more nimble than Windows.

Install Bodhi, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and you'll notice the difference you were hoping for. Strangely, Kubuntu has gotten pretty decently fast on my netbook to the point that I can have compositing enabled and make all the mac users jealous when I can do the same effects they can and more on a (2010 cost 300) machine. If I got a N2600 model I could add in FHD for all codecs (my N450 only does FHD for a few codecs) all with a 3.5Watt TDP in a cost of probably 300USD.
     
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My only gripe with the new Ubuntu 11.10 is that the kernel itself is regressing in terms of power demands, instead of my previously 12 to 14 hours on my Thinkpad, I'm only getting 8-10 on the good days, that's quite a difference, and I know my battery hasn't degraded because my Windows experience remains the same.
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I actually just recently tried 11.10 about 4 days ago and I disliked almost everything changed since my last try of linux with mint 8.

My 11.10 boot time was really, really slow. Weird that in their OS demo videos it praises boot times, but I have a good 35-40 seconds of just a blank purple screen, then the loading screen for 5 seconds, then I get into the OS.

I couldn't get any of the simple ordinary terminal commands to work. None of the apt-get commands I am used to putting in on a fresh install worked because of an error conflicting with the software manager. So I was forced to install things like wine and fglrx from the software manager, then I wasn't able to adjust those drivers via terminal because of another error conflicting with the software manager.

So ultimately, I couldn't configure my graphics driver for dual monitor support, boot times were slow, I couldn't configure wine and ultimately every time I tried to use terminal I felt punished.

The OS itself did not feel faster than my almost 8 month old format of windows 7.

However, back when I used mint 8. I DELETED my windows partition because it was such a joy to use. Everything I wanted to do...I just did it.

What happened?
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CrunchBang/ArchBang > Ubuntu biggrin.gif

Tho I agree Ubuntu is the ultimate linux distro for people to migrate over from Windows.
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Article fail, not only can it play Crysis but I posted it playing Crysis on max setting with an 8800GT and only -5FPS hit. Wine is actually turning out to be pretty freaking nice too.... You don't get bleeding edge but you get COD4, Crysis 2 (NO DX11 DUR), Borderlands, Rage (linux client too?), STALKER (ALL?), Assassin's Creed II, Fallout 3, Dead Space 2, Alice: Madness Returns, and a butload more decent games. I've personally ran all of these, they need to stop beating the already decomposed horse about linux not having any good games to play. And if you think an 8800GT is too beefy, it runs most of what I just listed. This crap is just annoying.

[edit[ just to emphasize more, I know Bioshock 1/2 work. Most Source games, I actually believe all. Warcrap, Farcry (both), Homefront (good game, too short), Serious Sam BFE, heck just go to appdb.winehq.org and check out your favorite game. Who knows, it might just work. In fact, more games work than most people want to admit, because then you would have an OS that's free and can do casual gaming to mildly competitive and that would just be wrong.
Edited by mushroomboy - 2/13/12 at 11:18pm
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Article fail, not only can it play Crysis but I posted it playing Crysis on max setting with an 8800GT and only -5FPS hit. Wine is actually turning out to be pretty freaking nice too.... You don't get bleeding edge but you get COD4, Crysis 2 (NO DX11 DUR), Borderlands, Rage (linux client too?), STALKER (ALL?), Assassin's Creed II, Fallout 3, Dead Space 2, Alice: Madness Returns, and a butload more decent games. I've personally ran all of these, they need to stop beating the already decomposed horse about linux not having any good games to play. And if you think an 8800GT is too beefy, it runs most of what I just listed. This crap is just annoying.
[edit[ just to emphasize more, I know Bioshock 1/2 work. Most Source games, I actually believe all. Warcrap, Farcry (both), Homefront (good game, too short), Serious Sam BFE, heck just go to appdb.winehq.org and check out your favorite game. Who knows, it might just work. In fact, more games work than most people want to admit, because then you would have an OS that's free and can do casual gaming to mildly competitive and that would just be wrong.

That's not linux. That is wine.
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Article fail, not only can it play Crysis but I posted it playing Crysis on max setting with an 8800GT and only -5FPS hit. Wine is actually turning out to be pretty freaking nice too.... You don't get bleeding edge but you get COD4, Crysis 2 (NO DX11 DUR), Borderlands, Rage (linux client too?), STALKER (ALL?), Assassin's Creed II, Fallout 3, Dead Space 2, Alice: Madness Returns, and a butload more decent games. I've personally ran all of these, they need to stop beating the already decomposed horse about linux not having any good games to play. And if you think an 8800GT is too beefy, it runs most of what I just listed. This crap is just annoying.
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But what you are calling bleeding edge is what most people call normal parts of the game. It's been about a year since I tried anything in Wine...I suppose I should give it a whirl again, but I am not expecting it to be any better these days. Why does it matter that the OS is free...if you can afford all those games then you can afford an operating system and get the most out your games.

Linux has some uses, but gaming is currently not one of them.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 2/14/12 at 6:45am
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Well, it is good we have some numbers. Performance wise, Windows 7 is still noticeably faster in most categories and less of a headache then ubuntu. Like most, linux is best used in closed platforms. OpenGL and whatnot run great on linux, but it needs to be a speciality or open platform. Most developers rather make good games with less headaches.
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That's not linux. That is wine.

It's still Linux. That's like me saying Windows doesn't have support for .pptx files, and then saying "That is PowerPoint."
    
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