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2/15/12 at 3:10pm

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How's battery life for Ubuntu 11.10 vs Win7? I was thinking of putting it on my laptop

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2/15/12 at 4:25pm

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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm

I don't know about that...there are plenty of Linux in Windows applications and they are typically called "Terminal Emulators". They let you use Linux software on a Windows environment.
Console emulators basically work the same way I think. Consoles don't have an API, but their console environment is replicated and treated as one by Windows so that it can use the console's software (the games). It isn't like it is a VM running. Changes made to the windows OS will effect the console emulator.
I think this is just a case of "tomato - tomato". Porting in an API is probably a form of emulation. It is allowing you to run a system as if it were a different kind of system. The developers are probably trying to spin it different, because "porting the API" sounds better than "Emulating". Granted it isn't an emulator like DosBox is, but provides the same end but with different means. Call it whatever you want.

Don't argue with him. He keeps confusing emulation with "emulator".

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2/15/12 at 6:15pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KG363

How's battery life for Ubuntu 11.10 vs Win7? I was thinking of putting it on my laptop

Linux had regressions in battery life and power consumption, Windows is a bit better in that regard but it's not much difference for most laptops.

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Don't argue with him. He keeps confusing emulation with "emulator".

Emulation is pretending to be something else, all Wine does is provide the libraries for applications to run normally. It doesn't pretend at all. See the difference here, a VM is emulating another system (Which happens to be the same architecture as the base system and usually has a different OS.)

An emulator is emulating another system, usually of a different architecture (Eg. Motorola 68k, MOS 6502, MIPs, ARM, etc) and Daemon Tools, Alcohol 120%, etc emulate disc drives. Providing a copied, but different proprietary API from another OS is not emulation. It's not emulating another system at all.

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2/15/12 at 6:46pm

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I like to play video games.

Debate over, Windows 7 wins.

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2/15/12 at 7:04pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exostenza

I like to play video games.
Debate over, Windows 7 wins.

Such is the main attitude why Linux doesn't have games

Even though OpenGL rapes DirectX, devs/companies will need a reason to switch to OpenGL. And it's not like if they make it with OpenGL then it'd be Linux only. OpenGL works across Windows/Mac/Linux. Only makes sense in my opinion.

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2/15/12 at 7:45pm

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I used Ubuntu for a couple of years on a secondary machine, since anything I needed to do on that computer could be accomplished under Linux I was very happy. I think it's a great OS, it has a lot of the stability and performance benefits of Linux while also being user friendly, it strikes a nice balance between the two. As the article says, though, it's unfortunate that for most people Linux isn't ready to take on Mac OSX or Windows 7.

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2/16/12 at 6:11am

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Don't argue with him. He keeps confusing emulation with "emulator".

Just really have never bothered to really worry about it. It doesn't matter if I call it a Linux Widget...at the end of the day it does what a fully blown true emulator would do. It lets Windows software run on a Linux system. And are you saying that an Emulator doesn't emulate? In your opinion, what would a piece of software have to do to be considered an Emulator? I am not trying to troll or anything...I am just trying to learn something here. Any time software meant to run on a different environment is allowed to run every source other than this thread has told me that it was either an emulator or a virtual machine allowing it to happen.

I didn't think it was that touchy of a subject. Sorry.

Too bad it isn't really isn't a good alternative to running windows in the very large majority of cases. Though I am planning to give it a whirl again this weekend because it's been a while since I've tried it. I would like to assume its improved some.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 2/16/12 at 6:22am

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Interesting. I like Ubuntu, but I can't seem to comprehend why Netflix works on Android and not Ubuntu?
Doesn't the HUGE android market help Linux out in anyway? Or is Android so different than desktop flavors of Linux (like Ubuntu)?

No, mainly because Android and Desktop Linux Kernels are massively different.

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Wine doesn't emulate at all. The software that runs in wine directly talks to the hardware and other linux system components. By the terms of software emulation, that means that WINE cannot be an emulator. Wineserver and the other programs emulate windows functions, the core components (kernel, video, audio, ect...) are talked to directly by the program being ran in wine. That is how they get such good 3D stuff working.

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