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I hope you weren't offended by my previous post--I was only just teasing.
I did play ME, and I would honestly say that I didn't find it nearly photo-real or ever thought there was a time when I went "whoa" in terms of thinking it looked realistic--not lying to myself or you. It looked different from the generic games of the time, and perhaps that makes us think it must be more realistic-looking. But ME is incredibly cartoonish. Are we talking about the same ME? The biggest difference it showed was the illusion of a wide-open map as you jump from building to building or obstacle to obstacle. Well, that and the use of the color red... smile.gif

ME has way to much glare. I think that's the problem with most UE3 games. CryEngine 2&3 games have more realistic lighting.
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They mean two HUMAN generations. Not hardware generations. So 60 years give or take a decade.

O rly?

I give it 2-4 hardware generations.
    
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The only games I can remember that gave me the OMG this is awesome reaction was first CoD 4. And then came along crysis with its crazy graphics that I so wanted to max but could only do medium.

Mass Effect games are pretty awesome, except I hated going to planets in the 1st one cause they all looked the same until you followed the story arc, then it changed up. But it was the first space oriented game I had played that didnt look like it had pixelated stars and dull colors. Not to mention I liked the in game cut scenes vs the pre-rendered stuff.

And skyrim holy bejesus it looks great other then the horrible shading, which i havent seen in a while. And the physics in the game is crap compared to alot of other games Ive played. And they did a ALOT better job on faces compared to Oblivion which is a plus. Also the atmosphere of the game is what made me like it. Changing weather with moving clouds, rain, snow, would of been cool if they incorporated lighting bolts every now and then since you hear it. And what sucks is I cant play with the GREAT mods out there as I am REALLY!!!! limited in vram since I can only play @ 1440x900 with 4x AA and no AF on medium and it fills my vram to the max. And if I left it at default I couldnt play at all @ my native screen resolution as I get a slide show with MASSIVE pauses. And skyboost doesnt help as it makes textures disappear, mostly water mountions. Granted the overclock I have on my cpu helps alot with the patch improvements. The HD textures are alot better except for fire pits that look like logs made out of LED lights lol.

One thing I have wondered is why dont they remake alot of the old games again in HD that were highly successful like....all the FF series games on the PS1. And make them harder like Chrono Cross, that game is not easy. Oh and FFX was great in story but was a cake in how easy the game is like how I can play through the game with all Aeons and not doing all of the monster arena stuff and no ledgendary weapons you can pwn all the last bosses with EASE.

anyways I am mostly disappointed in the same thing of clipping going on, with the shabby physics that seem to be in games still. And it seems like that isnt going to change anytime soon. Not to mention major lack of story line and character development , which I find more interesting to me than flashy graphics. Hence why I still play alot of my PS1&2 games and the older pc games as they werent just a kill this and collect type of game. There was real reasons behind most of what you did, it like WoW in offline mode lol.
 
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They mean two HUMAN generations. Not hardware generations. So 60 years give or take a decade.

O rly?

I give it 2-4 hardware generations.

Polygons look good. The shadowing needs to be a billion times less "dark".
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lol photo realistic with crap consoles with low res textures and LOD everywhere every 1 meters
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Polygons look good. The shadowing needs to be a billion times less "dark".

I think that's the biggest problem, game developers or the engines they use are just starting to use full-dynamic/real-time lighting. The Cryengine has had it for years now, but we still don't see it being adopted yet (The source engine for example, just recently getting updated to handle a single dynamic light that renders in real-time.) I don't care if we get photorealistic textures or not, I was more interested in lighting and lately fluid water in-game.
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lol photo realistic with crap consoles with low res textures and LOD everywhere every 1 meters

If you said gameplay graphics was going to be this good:

gran-turismo-screenshot-1.jpg

When this was first released:

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People would have probably punched you in the face and called you an idiot.
    
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People would have probably punched you in the face and called you an idiot.

Actually if someone said that the square ball would be a round ball I'd of punched you in the face and called you an idiot tongue.gif "It can't be done in this lifetime!"
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Actually if someone said that the square ball would be a round ball I'd of punched you in the face and called you an idiot tongue.gif "It can't be done in this lifetime!"

Just imagine if they made an expansion pack to add a few pixels to make it seem more spherical, would have made a fortune from that.
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ME has way to much glare. I think that's the problem with most UE3 games. CryEngine 2&3 games have more realistic lighting.


The lighting in Mirrors Edge wasn't from UE3. It was a different lighting engine (called Beast) developed by Illuminate Labs for UE3.

 

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I hope you weren't offended by my previous post

 

I don't take offense, it's just words. Plus I give as good as I get if I feel I need to.  thumb.gif


Edited by Lifeshield - 2/15/12 at 7:10am
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