Originally Posted by melterx12
a car gps is an accessory for the mobile market. you're saying the vita is competing with tomtom as well?
No, I don't think so. The vita is a handheld game console and is competing in the handheld game console market. Meaning it is competing agains the 3DS. Smartphones in my opinion are not real game consoles. they play games like angry birds. Saying angry birds is the same as a game like uncharted, is like saying console games are the same as flash games. By the way, the iPad is not even a hand held.
In response to the second part of your arguement, the Wii may have sold well in the beginning, but that was because it targeted a different audience. The wii targetted casual gamers, and it was successful in doing so. There are far more casual gamers or even non-gamers that would enjoy playing the types of games found on a wii, far more than there are "hardcore gamers" (or what I refer to as real gamers). The wii is no longer selling anywhere near as well as an xbox 360 or ps3. It was just a fad for casual gamers, and nothing more. It had a small number of real games, almost all of which were developed by nintendo.
Finally, I want to point out that the vita has been out for only a few months in japan, and barely a week in the US. The sales numbers so far are not enough proof that the vita will succeed or fail. Give some time for a more diverse selection of games to be released before jumping to concusions (such as a good rpg game).
A dedicated GPS is a mobile device that only has one purpose: get you where you tell it you need to go. Two things are wrong with your assesment.
1. A GPS has only one purpose. It cannot be used for anything other than that. It has no access to outside information other than the GPS satellites that it interfaces with. Thus it is a self-contained unit. By the very definition of the market, it is positioned to be non-competitive with other mobile devices simply because it is only designed for one task.
2. (subjective) A stand alone GPS is already outclassed by smartphones since virtually all smartphones not only have a GPS, but they also interface with the internet to get search results for locations in real time. A stand alone unit must have periodic map and location updates, while a smart phone does not need this as it always accesses an external database when in use.
Since the vita is positioned as an all-in-one media device (videos, pictures, music, internet, and complex games), it falls into a competitive state with smartphones. Like it or not, they are competitors. Now, if you remove the camera, 3G connectivity, GPS, Smartphone-like internals, and MP3 player, suddenly you have a device that DOES NOT compete with smartphones as it does not have similar features. It is now a dedicated gaming device, much like a stand alone GPS is a dedicated device. Also, I'm starting to get tired of the whole "angry birds" argument. Don't people realize that angry birds was a fad that is now dying? There are tons of other games and apps that are also very popular and far more complex than "Birds." I would appreciate it if you stop using that as an example because it does not represent where the gaming portion of the smartphone market is going. There are many far more entertaining games on the smartphone app market now.
An iPad is not a handheld you say? Wikipedia has a nice article on that.
In fact, tablets are classified as a mobile device also known as a handheld
. It even specifically mentions the iPad in the article.
Nintendo made a killing on the Wii because of the audience they targeted. Regardless of whether it was a fad or not, we now have the Playstation Move and Xbox360 Kinect which are both more advanced versions of the Wii's motion control system. The Wii revolutionized the world of consoles, believe it or not, and it would be foolish for either company to ignore this type of input control on their next generation of consoles. The Wii proved that the market does exist. If anything, Nintendo had absolutely no clue how successful the Wii was truly going to be, so they had no clue how to make good games for it.
With all of that being said, I guess we'll just watch sales numbers on the Vita. With any luck, my predictions about the Vita are wrong. I guess we'll see in the coming year or two.Edited by Mad Pistol - 2/20/12 at 12:10am