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Anyone know if these are worth a damn? I only looking at it cause it would be easy to locate that anyware in my current loop due to its size
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Are what worth a damn? Nothing in that post to look at.
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post #14 of 46
1.5 LPM bad at all for having 7 components to go through, especially if two of them are motherboard blocks (typically low flow rate blocks).

Check flow rate again after adding the two GPU blocks, but I don't think adding another pump for increased flow rate is going to decrease temperatures much.
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maybe lol

guess I'll see once those blocks come out huh. I guess worst case I'll add the pump
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Sorry for the late reply but Martian did a pump test with all types of angled fittings been while since I read it. Its somewhere on the forum. If im thinking correctly for every 90 degree fitting is a loss of .9 psi and 45s are half of that.. Ill find the thread when I get home and pm u the link. Havnt seen that pump in action so sorry no help there. Take it easy , peace

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Well, simply adding the two gpu blocks in parallel shouldn't significantly decrease your flow rate, and 1.5 gpm is already more than high enough for solid performance... With that said, if you're determined to increase it anyway, a second pump in series is the way to go. Martin's Liquid Lab did a comparison on pumps in series and parallel compared to single pumps, and running them in series increased both the head and flow:

seriesvssinglepumps.png?w=614
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While this does double the pressure of two like pumps, it should be noted that it does not double your flow rate. Because the restriction pressure drop curves are not linear, you generally net around 30% more flow rate from running two pumps in series.
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Well, simply adding the two gpu blocks in parallel shouldn't significantly decrease your flow rate, and 1.5 gpm is already more than high enough for solid performance... With that said, if you're determined to increase it anyway, a second pump in series is the way to go. Martin's Liquid Lab did a comparison on pumps in series and parallel compared to single pumps, and running them in series increased both the head and flow:
seriesvssinglepumps.png?w=614


Well I'm running 1.5 LPM not GPM tongue.gif

But thank that's some great info!! I actual visited martins site but I must of missed that artical.
I'll plan on trying out the blocks first then I add a pump if needed.

But again Ty's for the info!
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Well I'm running 1.5 LPM not GPM tongue.gif

I thought that was the case.

1.5 LPM = 0.4 GPM

The thing that is killing the flow rate is the mobo blocks, they tend to be very restrictive.

A second pump in series is going to be the answer here. I know it is a boring and obvious answer but it is the right one. You don't need to get the same type of pump; as Martin's testing showed mismatched pumps work well together so long as the loop flow rate does not exceed maximum flow rate of either pump (unlikely with your loop). Actually mismatched pumps can be better than identical ones as it reduces the chances of resonance*.

You can try running things in parallel if you want but that opens the door to a whole load of problems with flow balancing and may actually end up reducing the flow through individual components, even if the overall flow rate increases. I would advise against this except for identical components (i.e. GPU blocks).




*And we all know what happens when there is a resonance casecade: Xen...
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Well I'm running 1.5 LPM not GPM tongue.gif
But thank that's some great info!! I actual visited martins site but I must of missed that artical.
I'll plan on trying out the blocks first then I add a pump if needed.
But again Ty's for the info!

Whoops, must've misread that, I swore you said 1 gpm lol.
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