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I saw the article about the extremely overclockable Pentium D 805 on THG, and I'm really tempted to go to the dark side.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/...res/page3.html

How can anyone argue with dual cores, 2 x 1M L2, DDR2, and practically guaranteed 3.6GHz+ overclocking for a whopping $90 (latest price on newegg)?

Anyway, I'm at the point where AGP has got my gfx upgrade path up against the wall, my ram sux (which it has for years, literally...). And, as cool as an overclocked XP-M running on an nForce2 was in the past, it just doesn't really cut it anymore.

I've been kind of absent from the whole overclocking scene for awhile, so my question is: is there an easy-overclocking AMD chip that could possibly equal a Pentium D 805 for the same money? I pretty much have to upgrade everything all at once, so I could go either way. The Pentium D seems to offer a whole lot of performance and overclocking fun for the money, though...
    
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An athlon X2 3800 would be a good AMD match against that. Both are amazing overclockers as 3800's have been doing 1Ghz overclocks. Both are fabulous products but if you can manage the cash you'll have a much nicer experience with a conroe or AM2 system. (I'd opt for the conroe E6300)
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Look at getting a Intel Core 2 Duo system. All of the components are going to run you about the same except for the cpu, especially with DDR matching the expensive prices of DDR2 now. The E6300 will cost you 2x as much but it will smoke the Pentium D even if you got it to above 4GHz. I would recommend getting the E6400 though, from what I have read they overclock a little better and have an easier multiplier to work with.

If you have to buy now I would go with Intel and if you can wait then AMD will be hitting back soon and hopefully regaining the performance title. Time will tell I guess.
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The $90 price on the Pentium D is kind of important, since i've got to get a PCI express gfx card worth playing on (thinking of a 7600GT), some good ram, and a halfway decent mobo for basically as little as possible. I probably won't actually be doing it for a while, as I can't spare the $$$ right now, but I like to investigate ahead of time. But maybe the core 2 duo will get cheaper by then.
    
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The price to performance is great really, and the cheap prices on the Core Duo's has brought the price of AMD's cpu's down. Maybe when AMD gets going full strength on their 65nm and their expenses go down there might be a price battle once again. We can only hope, .
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A 3.6GHz Pentium D is equivalent to a 2.4GHz Athlon 64. I used SoaDMTGguy's CPU speed converter to find that. I'm no expert on Intel products, but as far as I know, only the Core 2 is worth getting over an AMD. I just got a $95 Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego KACAE stepping that is more or less guaranteed to exceed 3GHz on air cooling. This would be equivalent to a 4.5GHz Intel P4/PD, assuming the intel also has 1152KB on-die L2 cache like my San Diego.
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A 3.6GHz Pentium D is equivalent to a 2.4GHz Athlon 64. I used SoaDMTGguy's CPU speed converter to find that. I'm no expert on Intel products, but as far as I know, only the Core 2 is worth getting over an AMD. I just got a $95 Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego KACAE stepping that is more or less guaranteed to exceed 3GHz on air cooling. This would be equivalent to a 4.5GHz Intel P4/PD, assuming the intel also has 1152KB on-die L2 cache like my San Diego.
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/93126-...ertz-myth.html
When you say a 3.6 GHz Pentium D is faster, are you taking into consideration that the 805 is dual core, 1M L2 x 2?
Also, I forget, is core 2 the same as dual core, or is it dual dual cores?

And, does dual core really make any usefull difference these days over a good single core like an A64 @ 3GHz?

BTW, what mobo/ram do you have for your oc'd SD, and what is everything running at?
    
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lets see,a dual core CPU lets you multi-task like mad,youll be able to run 50 procce's + without any hold downs
your GAMES will be MUCH more smoother and playable,everything will be better believe me
its because with 2 cores a single program can utilize a WHOLE core instead of sharing it with windows and its massive arrey of stupid mghz consuming service's

edit:
get a duel core 3800+ if you are looking to stick with amd
a more powerfull choice of course would be the core2dou
but thats kinda more expensive atm + its not the dark side its the gay side imo
    
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Originally Posted by Marager
lets see,a dual core CPU lets you multi-task like mad,youll be able to run 50 procce's + without any hold downs
your GAMES will be MUCH more smoother and playable,everything will be better believe me
its because with 2 cores a single program can utilize a WHOLE core instead of sharing it with windows and its massive arrey of stupid mghz consuming service's

edit:
get a duel core 3800+ if you are looking to stick with amd
a more powerfull choice of course would be the core2dou
but thats kinda more expensive atm + its not the dark side its the gay side imo
But $$$ is the big problem. It's got to be cheap, like < $100. My big question is, will an oc'd single A64 SD at like 2.8-3GHz beat an oc'd P D dual core805 at 3.6-3.8GHz? Dual core AMDs are too much now.
    
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Bassically a single core will not beat a dual core atm, DC's are fast!

Just get a 805 if you want they are very good chips, jsut maek sure you baord supports Core Duo so you can upgrade
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