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It could be just that its really late for me, but I believe in the corporate world that this is how you get stuff done. Or something along the lines of that...
     
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Apple employee 1: Hey look at this new ultra book. Should we work on making the next mac book air way better than this thing?
Apple employee 2: What!? No of course not we are apple, we'll just threaten the manufacture and force them to stop production. thumb.gif
Edited by skullking17 - 2/14/12 at 11:03pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrDarkTempler View Post

Why isn't this a anti-trust issue?

because apple is free to flex its contractual muscles where it may, and asus is equally free to find another factory in which to manufacture their zenbook

antitrust litigation is incredibly expensive, time consuming and difficult to prove. Asus has more to lose by attempting to sue for anti-trust than to simply move factories.
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Wow so many posts got deleted.... Come on mods
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Edited by Rotsae - 4/1/14 at 11:16pm
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I feel like my opinion may be worth something given the topic since I have a decent amount of backround info on both:

Production has always been an issue with the zenbook. Apparently, they can not produce the zenbook chasis fast enough since it requires heavy machinery. There are certain retailers who will not even hold the zenbook since they can not sell in bulk, which is their business plan. This news will undoubtedly only hurt this cause even more.

I have the latest gen macbook air and my mom owns a zenbook(bought it for her). I prefer the macbook air over the zenbook simply due to the trackpad. The achilles heal to the zenbook is that the touch pad is attrocious and the case is slightly heavier. If they could fix this they would be able to SERIOUSLY compete with the air since they are very similar, but has a lower price tag. As of right now I love my macbook air for a laptop(and obviously my PC desktop for performance), but would love to see ASUS fix the touchpad and be able to compete.

EDIT: the backlit keyboard is worth something too on the macbook air.
Edited by spitty13 - 2/14/12 at 11:11pm
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Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post

Not really, Apple tech enthusiasts have heard about it to. The story was posted on MacRumours and such.
People there generally agree that the similarity of the Zenbook to the MacBook Air was too great, and that's why Apple took action against ASUS.

It's still dumb, you don't see ASUS suing Dell or HP, Lenovo suing MSI, etc over laptops.
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Originally Posted by Lime View Post

Oh please people, the Zenbook is painfully similar to the MBA. I'm no Apple fan, but really?

And here comes the "Hate on the Apple haters" bandwagon.
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Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post

It's not about the thinness, it's more about the Zenbook's copying of the trademark slanted design that the Macbook Air has (along with the use of aluminum body, similar keyboard/trakpad layout and other things) which overall make it very similar to the MBA which preceded it.
asus-ux31-zenbook-ultrabook-review-15.jpg?20111114-180512
I'm not saying I agree with the method Apple decided to take care of it though.

Okay, slanted design is a maybe. The rest is complete crap, a laptop looks like a laptop. Shock horror.

As for similar keyboards/trackpads...You do realise there's standards for that sort of thing? Seriously, Apple is just trying to keep a monopoly in the Ultrabook market, and trying to create one in the Smartphone and Tablet market with their lawyers. They really need to get hit hard with the hammer of justice, it's worse than what Intel did to AMD.
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post

FYI, the iBook wasn't the first laptops Apple introduced. Their model in 1991 looked like this:
220px-Powerbook_150.jpg
They did have to copy the general look of what defines a laptop from existing models by other companies though. The evolution from big room sized computers to laptops was pretty predictable though as it's just a keyboard and screen:
apple-1.jpg

No different to the evolution of say, tablets, smartphones and ultrabooks...Get thinner where you can and use stronger materials as stuff gets thinner and weaker ones can't really hold out anymore. So in other words, metal instead of plastic, slanted design (Because the battery and heatsinks are the thickest part of a laptop, place them at the back so the keyboard is slanted like any keyboard including the pictured one rather than it being flat and higher and have the connectors there because that's the easiest spot to fit them)

Seriously, how is anyone defending this? Lets be thankful Apple as they are now didn't make the first actual laptop, otherwise we'd be stuck with luggable computers as opposed to a real laptop, simply because its a different design.
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7) finally, no one who is flaming apple would buy apple. you're not fooling anyone, you just want to find more things to hate so you can try to throw it in more people's faces that apple sucks. meanwhile they'll continue to make money hand over fist and people on OCN will continue to say ridiculous things like "asus could be as big as apple"

These are atrocious business practices and Apple really deserve to be fined a very sizable chunk of cash, relative to their income and current assets for them.

And I've owned Apple products before and until now, I'd have considered their products still. (I had an 80GB iPod Classic)
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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post

Apple - Threatens Pegatron that if they don't stop manufacturing the Ultrabook, they'll cut their iOS contract. (Shouldn't that violate their contract terms to begin with?)
Intel - Takes an impact because the Ultrabook won't be produced anymore, and threatens Apple that if they don't allow ASUS to fairly compete and sell the Ultrabook, Intel will stop producing chips for Apple.
I'd love it.

Apple - Moves OS X, etc to ARM instead of x86, just like they've done from the MOS Technology 6502, then the Motorola 68000 and then PowerPC.
    
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I think many people are on this thread are just butt hurt at Apple's success. You fail to understand or recognize that Apple has become the Louis Vuitton of computers. The masses don't care and don't know about your Samsungs, HTCs running on Andriod. Those devices are 2nd class, the people know Apple, period. Even my grandma knows Apple and who Steve Jobs is, tell her about Samsung or HTC and she'll think it's a brand of toilet paper. (no joke, true story)

No matter how convincing your argument is at the end of the day people will buy Apple. All this tech garbage you try to explain to them doesn't matter because they don't understand in the first place. You people just need to suck it up recognize that Android based devices are 2nd class, doesn't matter how great Android OS is, how many features it has or how good it sales are, when it comes time for birthdays, weddings, gifts, valentines, people choose Apple.

Oh, did I fail to mention the Asia market? Especially the Chinese market where status means everything and Apple is considered status to 1.3 billion? Apple's future is looking VERY GOOD and may very well be the first $1 trillion dollar company.

SUCK.IT.UP

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OCN gets more hilarious by the day. You guys realize that every big corporation in the world would do this if they had the chance? Many of them probably are right now. The only reason you know about this instance of it is because Apple is involved and people love to report on Apple.
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Do you guys realize Apple could just buy Intel if they wanted to?
Microsoft was the same when they were on top as was IBM and General Motors and General Electric and 3m and every other mega corp in any industry in the world.
That is business, nothing illegal or wrong about it. Unethical maybe, but that is up to the consumers to decide and so far Apple is winning the mind share war.

Thanks for the good laugh.
    
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