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hello people!
Santa arrived today! perfect timing too! its snowing today!
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So, this is going to be just a picture guide on how I installed the CoolerMaster 212 EVO and the ASUS EAH6670 1GB GDDR5 in my system with a A8-3870k in a ASUS F1A75-m Pro. Other components include 4x Corsair Vengeance 4Gb 1600Mhz memory, standard 1Tb Caviar blue WD Drive and a Corsair AX650 power supply.
Note that this might be used as a guide for someone who has little or no experience on building PCs... like me lol
I ran into some trouble with the ASUS GPU, scroll down to read what happened and how I think I fixed it!


ok so this is what I started out with:
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Coolermaster hardware:
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here is the original backplate:
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backplate-less MB:
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Coolermasters backplate installed:
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Even though coolermasters nice little tool is useful, it wont help you much in a F1A75-m Pro MB inside a NZXT Vulcan. It hits the edge of the case just barely :/
but, if your not lazy like I am, you could take out your MB and do this outside! biggrin.gif
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Now, when I removed the original heatsink, I noticed that the center was not making contact! hmmm those darn air bubbles.
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so, I decided to place a more than generous amount of thermal paste, which was not such a good idea as it seems...
it just bled all over the MB and CPU socket:
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had to do a little clean up smile.gif
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now, just as I expected, the CM 212 Evo protrudes about 1 cm out the case edge, but luckily, the Vulcan has a bulged side panel!
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but... turns out it actually did get in the way of the side panel hmmm just the very edge of the inside
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nothing some pliers and patience can fix!
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paint it up with enamel paint, and its good to go!
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Make sure your airflow is away from the RAM, I set up the CM in a Pull configuration (had to flip the fan) I would have preferred to install it turned 90 degrees, but the mATX AMD boards RAM gets in the way frown.gif
also, the stock fan wont fit in between the HS and the RAM, hence why I placed it in pull configuration. I want to get myself a skinny fan to squeeze in between.. any suggestions?
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So, thats it for the CM, took me about 30 minutes, faster than expected.
Next up is the quick plug in of the ASUS EAH6670
Then the fun part! driver mayhem with the dual graphics set up!
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unboxing, very simple packaging... I was expecting more, but it was undamaged, to its fine smile.gif
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There it is installed:
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Little cable management to do...
from this:
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to this:
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quite the change, no?
Here are some extras:
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See that string of red LEDs on the right of the MB? yea, the two top ones are the boards EPU and TPU switches turned on, the bottom one it that darn memory error, see below.
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Now, let me just say that just getting the MB to POST with this new card was a pain!
When I tried to boot up to load the drivers, I noticed it didn't post, so I did the basic check connections, see if everything is plugged in alright, unplugged everything, cleaned gold fingers, and nada....
hmm, ok, lets see if the MB tells me any error codes. Plugged in the speaker I happened to have from my REALLY old PC and it beeps 1 long, 2 short.... waaiit.. thats a memory problem?!
I begin to think its a problem of memory compatibility between Corsair Vengeance and this new GPU, but then I come to my senses.
Here, I took a break, neighbor came up, chatted bla bla, then got back to this little problem.
so, might it be this GPU is defective? grrr
Oh, and did I forget to mention I don't have a dvd drive? yea, I'm too cheap to get one (or too broke frown.gif ) I planned to install the drivers from the Asus website, besides, chances were that they were newer.
I ran the MemOK tool on the ASUS MB, nada (did this multiple times, If I hadn't removed the new GPU I would've thought the RAM was damaged somewhere in the process of installing everything)
Plugged in the DVI connection the the MB, GPU, with HDMI, DVI to VGA adapter, nada
Ripped the installation disk to a usb thumb drive to see if that worked, nada
cleared the CMOS, nada
Finaly, I decided to just go into the BIOS (without the new GPU installed, remember, it won't show up anything on the screen with it installed) poke around the settings and see what happens. First I changed the Realtek "PXE OPROM" settings to "Enabled" (I had absolutely no idea what that was, turns out its for network booting), changed the IGFX Multi-monitor to Enabled, Changed Primary Video Device to IGFX Video from PCIE/PCI Video (I think this is what did it, but I'm not sure) and changed the Integrated Graphics to Auto (I had it on manual to get 2GB of video memory instead of the basic 512mb)
reset, booted, shutdown
plugged in new GPU, booted! awesome!
ok, now I got into windows, but it doesn't recognize the 6670, ok, fair enough, I told the MB to get signal from the integrated graphics device (A8 APU), but I still updated the driver to the 6670, only it just told me it updated the 6550D driver (thats the APU)
So, I got back into the BIOS, and tweaked a bit more (turned off the network boot to begin with! lol ) set the primary video device to PCIE/PCI and bingo!
It booted, loaded new drivers and even got it in dual graphics automatically! hmm, that was easy.... I checked my performance increase with Batman AAsylum and the Avg. FPS went from 30ish to 47fps, hmm, nice!
by now, I was starving, so I left it running the 3DMark Vantage stress test, but when I got back... it was frozen grrr
meh, I read somewhere it wasn't compatible with 3DMark, so just ignored this and went on to make this post and waste more time! heheh



NOW! I'm ready to do some semi-serious OCing! any tips?
Edited by NXZ-MEAD - 2/13/12 at 10:49pm
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Very nice rig! I wish it was snowing in our country too! (no snow for us)

about the hsf, is it still possible to put in another fan on the other side?
I'm currently looking for an HSF to my build. I am aiming at air cooling too since I don't like the risk of closed loop water cooling.

Is this your first rig build? because it would be my first and I just want to know how hard it would be to build it with no experience at all.
I'm just nervous about the connections and setting in the drivers, OS and such...
is there a possibility that I could mess up with the connections, or it only goes one way and can't fit any other sockets besides on what socket it should be in.
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Very nice rig! I wish it was snowing in our country too! (no snow for us)
about the hsf, is it still possible to put in another fan on the other side?
I'm currently looking for an HSF to my build. I am aiming at air cooling too since I don't like the risk of closed loop water cooling.
Is this your first rig build? because it would be my first and I just want to know how hard it would be to build it with no experience at all.
I'm just nervous about the connections and setting in the drivers, OS and such...
is there a possibility that I could mess up with the connections, or it only goes one way and can't fit any other sockets besides on what socket it should be in.

yea, you can fit another fan on the other side, but it has to be one of those "slim" fans, I think sythe makes some? I still have to research up on that, when I find one, I'll PM you biggrin.gif
but, you might be able to fit one by using "normal" RAMs, my RAMs are Vengeance and these things are HUGE.... well, at least the heat sink they have is....
technically speaking, yes, this is my first build. but I do have some experience with electronics and laptop motherboard modding, so I don't think I fit into the n00b category.... (but I might, who knows? lol)
most of the stuff has only one way to go in, the only thing that the manuals don't tell you is to discharge static build up, you can do that by touching a big metal object (most people say that by touching your case is enough, I personally don't trust that thick layer of paint most cases have so I just have something metally hanging around when I build smile.gif )
If you feel very touchy about drivers, I suggest you install just the basic components (MB, CPU, RAM, HHD) and install your OS just with that, If you know how to make a bootable thumb drive, I suggest you use one instead, the install times are cut by more than half, If not, then just use a standard dvd drive. Once you can get into the OS with those components, Install any other device one by one, starting with LAN card if your MB doesn't have one (I really recommend Rosewills PCI wireless adapter (Rosewill RNX-N300X PCI Wireless Adapter) I get good speeds on that thing (up to 2Mbps real)) then with Audio cards, (again only if your MB doesn't have one already, if it does, and your not some kind of audiophile, it WILL be enough, trust me), VGA/ GPU/ graphics card, whatever you want to call it, and any other device you wish to add!
just remember to put in the HS or cooling device BEFORE you switch it on, you'd be amazed how fast you can burn a chip...

what kind of rig are you planning on building?
any components you want/need?
amd or intel?
nVidia or Radeon?
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I've do heard about that I need to touch the casing from time to time, but since you said it...I'd be doing that big metal object then just to be safe.
That's a relief, then I should be worried since the sockets will only go to where they are supposed to be.
I was thinking that I might put them in the wrong place and just end up screwing my investment.

Do you mean that after I've put in every component, I just put in the OS and install?
I don't have to do MDOS Command Prompt?

I'd be building this in March:

cpu: intel i5-2500K
mb: lga1155 Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 or Asus P8Z68-M Pro
atx: NZXT Vulcan
hdd: WDC Blue 500GB SATA III
psu: FSP Aurum 700W 80+Gold or Seasonic 620w M12II 80+ Bronze (these two were priced the same at our local stores...wierd isn't it?)
ram: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile or Gskill Ripjaws X 2x4GB DDR3 1600 CL9
odd: Samsung , ASUS or LG 24X
vga: Gigabyte HD6950 Windforce 3x or ASUS HD 6950 1gb/256bit ddr5
os: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

I've put in options so that if it's not available then I can change up right away. But I do hope they are available in our local stores.
I thought up of getting an SSD for the OS but I think I can live up waiting a couple of seconds more on boot up.

to follow:
HSF:
I'm planning to get Noctua C12 or C14. That is if C14 would fit in this...
other options would be CM 212 EVO or Corsair H50. My last option is the H50, because I heard that closed water loop can have the tendency to leak and I have issues if the hose would fit at the front with 6950 installed.

side fan: that is...if it still has room to fit.

as for case fans.
I like my rig to be silent as possible, so Noctua would probably my best bet. Even though I dont really like it's color.
I really want LED's but the bulbs have a tendency to burn out. And I don't think they're silent.
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I've do heard about that I need to touch the casing from time to time, but since you said it...I'd be doing that big metal object then just to be safe.
That's a relief, then I should be worried since the sockets will only go to where they are supposed to be.
I was thinking that I might put them in the wrong place and just end up screwing my investment.
Do you mean that after I've put in every component, I just put in the OS and install?
I don't have to do MDOS Command Prompt?
I'd be building this in March:
cpu: intel i5-2500K
mb: lga1155 Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 or Asus P8Z68-M Pro
atx: NZXT Vulcan
hdd: WDC Blue 500GB SATA III
psu: FSP Aurum 700W 80+Gold or Seasonic 620w M12II 80+ Bronze (these two were priced the same at our local stores...wierd isn't it?)
ram: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile or Gskill Ripjaws X 2x4GB DDR3 1600 CL9
odd: Samsung , ASUS or LG 24X
vga: Gigabyte HD6950 Windforce 3x or ASUS HD 6950 1gb/256bit ddr5
os: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
I've put in options so that if it's not available then I can change up right away. But I do hope they are available in our local stores.
I thought up of getting an SSD for the OS but I think I can live up waiting a couple of seconds more on boot up.
to follow:
HSF:
I'm planning to get Noctua C12 or C14. That is if C14 would fit in this...
other options would be CM 212 EVO or Corsair H50. My last option is the H50, because I heard that closed water loop can have the tendency to leak and I have issues if the hose would fit at the front with 6950 installed.
side fan: that is...if it still has room to fit.
as for case fans.
I like my rig to be silent as possible, so Noctua would probably my best bet. Even though I dont really like it's color.
I really want LED's but the bulbs have a tendency to burn out. And I don't think they're silent.

hmmm, I have installed Win7 Eternity (custom edition, I've had it for around 4 years I think) at least 20 times, I format my PCs and my friends very often, about once every 2-3 months, I'm too lazy to do a clean up lol. well, I have installed it plenty of times just by booting up either the disk or the bootable thumb drive (usb) through the BIOS, never had to do a MS DOS command prompt Install.... In fact, I don't think I even know how to! most of the stuff I know how to do, I just learnt it by practice, so, I'm sure you'll be fine biggrin.gif

now, research a good bit into those PSUs, If you haven't already, read a TON of reviews on them... you really dont want to be stuck with a crappy PSU, especially if you plan on running that 6950, and I guess its safe to say your overclocking? also, you want to overshoot your PSUs capability (say, if you calculate you need 500w to power everything, overshoot it by 20% and if your overclocking, give it a bit more juice biggrin.gif )

On the HS it will be kinda hard to get a largeish HS to fit in conjunction with the side fan and not be an obstacle to the other components... I mean, it could fit, I'm sure there are guys who have done it before with those slim horizontal kind of HS like the NOCTUA C14, but I'd build the system with the stock cooler, then see if the larger HS would fit... just to be safe.
but, the Coolermaster 212 EVO I have will definitely not like a side fan there... but you could still slap 3 smaller 120mm fans. though I really don't think you need them. I currently only have the stock 2 that came with the case sucking in air, plus the one I took of the stock HS (its a small 70mm I think, I have to measure it... but its smaller than the rear case exhaust slot), that one is just sitting there pulling air out while NZXT sends me free fans biggrin.gif

You might want to try out NZXTs customer service too, they can send you some LED 120mm fans, they are not that loud, and are free! those are the ones I'm waiting on, actually tongue.gif

On the SSD, I have never seen for myself its capabilities but from logical deduction I'd say you get really fast boot up times, transfer of files, programs should open quite fast, helpful if you run really intense programs like ADOBE, Solidworks or some kind of Video editing software. But I'm sure if you add it up, you could save, what? 20 minutes per day? that's if you open and close programs a lot and shut down your PC at least twice per day.... not worth the small space/big cash ratio just yet IMO... I mean if you have the cash, totally go for it, but if you're on a budget, like me, just get a standard drive or a 10,000rpm drive if you really need a ~15% faster PC HDD-wise (though even HDDs are expensive nowadays :S )
hmmm did I miss anything? sorry I'm a bit sleepy.... just checked the forum before I get to school :]
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Win7 Eternity
Haven't heard of this one yet but it sounds really cool!
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I have installed it plenty of times just by booting up either the disk or the bootable thumb drive (usb)
I have no idea on this one, I guess I'll just have to settle for installing from a cd.
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now, research a good bit into those PSUs, If you haven't already, read a TON of reviews on them... you really dont want to be stuck with a crappy PSU, especially if you plan on running that 6950, and I guess its safe to say your overclocking?
Seasonic and FSP are two trusted brands in here, so it's already safe. Yup, after a couple of months of use at stock, prolly up to 4ghz.
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On the HS it will be kinda hard to get a largeish HS to fit in conjunction with the side fan and not be an obstacle to the other components...
yeah, I really wished the Vulcan's width was wider. Vulcan is a priority over C14, so if C14 can't fit then it would have to be replaced on the lineup. 3 of which are waiting on the line anyways. smile.gif
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You might want to try out NZXTs customer service too, they can send you some LED 120mm fans, they are not that loud, and are free! those are the ones I'm waiting on, actually
for FREE?! perhaps it's just a promo? what did you say to get them?
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On the SSD, I have never seen for myself its capabilities but from logical deduction I'd say you get really fast boot up times, transfer of files, programs should open quite fast, helpful if you run really intense programs like ADOBE, Solidworks or some kind of Video editing software.
I don't think I'll go for it, waiting by a couple of seconds more is quite liveable. For the price of 120gb SSD I can already get 1TB HDD WD Black. They're really great but also costs too much.
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yea! I just gave them an honest review of the case, pointed out its awesomeness, and flaws, and asked them where I could find more 120mm Orange LED fans, the told me the could send me some! just like that!
I am still waiting for them to ship them (1-14 business days, as I was told) but I guess they are always very busy, so I'm not putting any pressure on them smile.gif

If you have an empty 8GB flash drive, you should totally research about bootable USBs, there might be a guide in this very forum!
just make sure you don't have ANY important file in it because it WILL get deleted.... and by deleted I mean you won't be able to recover your essay even with your trusty file recovery program LFMF!
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