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Only if you plan on folding but can't get a 4p.
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You don't have to.. But they overclock alot further with it off. It depends what you're using it for.. i7's are a waste of money for the general gamer, (unless its a laptop). i5 all the way.. Maybe even a 2550k so you can overclock it more! thumb.gif
By the way, the difference between a 2500k and a 2550k is the 2550k is higher binned (Better overclocking). Same story with the 2600k and the 2700k.

With the amount of overclocking overhead these chips have it is difficult to say if they are really binning the chips or just raising the multiplier by one bin and calling it by a different name.
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With the amount of overclocking overhead these chips have it is difficult to say if they are really binning the chips or just raising the multiplier by one bin and calling it by a different name.

I guess so, but i've seen far better impressive results on a 2700k compared to a 2600k. (I've seen 2700k's at 4.7GHz and higher). I'm yet to see a 2600k that high. (Unless someone was lucky with the first couple of batches before the 2700k was implemented)
 
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So basicly even if i were to get the 2700K i would still have to turn off hyperthreading?
... If so then I'll get the 2500k.

You don't have to turn HT off. It can really increase temps at higher clocks but with good cooling you should be fine.

You'd buy a 2600k/2700k to make use of HT. So why turn it off.

If you oc the chip wont it affect the ht speeds also wich prob ends upin a unstable oc?
Or will the oc be ashigh as the ht speed? Then its still useless imo:s
I could be wrong here so im asking to learn.
Im talking withthe knowladge i have from oc'ing my amd chip with ht

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If you oc the chip wont it affect the ht speeds also wich prob ends upin a unstable oc?
Or will the oc be ashigh as the ht speed? Then its still useless imo:s
I could be wrong here so im asking to learn.
Im talking withthe knowladge i have from oc'ing my amd chip with ht
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HT speeds? Hyperthreading is just turned off to make the processor stable at higher clocks.
An example would be that i get a 2700k that runs 4.4GHz with HT on, but with HT off it can clock higher (say 4.7GHz in this case).
 
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post #16 of 45
2700k is definitely not worth 40$ over 2600k. So it is either 2500k or 2600k, depends of your needs. If you mainly game and surf (and other light stuff) 2500k is more then enough...
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If you oc the chip wont it affect the ht speeds also wich prob ends upin a unstable oc?
Or will the oc be ashigh as the ht speed? Then its still useless imo:s
I could be wrong here so im asking to learn.
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I think you are mistaking AMD HyperTransport for Intel HyperThreading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTransport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

Read and see the diffrence biggrin.gif
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So basicly even if i were to get the 2700K i would still have to turn off hyperthreading?
... If so then I'll get the 2500k.
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I dont have a intel proc but if he wanna oc to 4.5.
Dont he have to disable ht for the oc?
i know i have to on my amd chip
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Having to turn HT off in order to OC a 2600k/2700k is nonsense, please don't confuse people with bad information. You also don't have hyper threading on your X6 so you did not disable it to OC higher/better/at all. It would probably be beneficial to read up on stuff a bit more before trying to help people.

The only time people had to turn off HT for stability is with Battlefield 3, where systems with HT enabled suffered from extreme micro-stutter. This issue has already been patched and both HT and non-HT systems can run BF3 fine now.

At OP - It would help if you listed some tasks you wanted to do with your system. If you are just gaming a 2500K or 2600K would be sufficient. If you are looking to stream your gaming via twitch/own3d/etc, you would probably want to invest in a 2600K depending on the software. FMLE will really push your cores and gobble up all 8 threads happily if you go that route. Both the 2600K and 2700K will have no problems going from stock to 4.7 or so, it is really the people who are after the 5ghz+ barrier who might benefit from the supposedly better binned silicon.
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HT speeds? Hyperthreading is just turned off to make the processor stable at higher clocks.
An example would be that i get a 2700k that runs 4.4GHz with HT on, but with HT off it can clock higher (say 4.7GHz in this case).

Agreed.

Im running a low 4.3GHz with HT on and theres no issue at all. Yes its low, haven't played with it much yet. Only set x43 and bumped up the volts .05 to 1.25 from 1.2.

Check out the sandy stable club for overclocks with HT on.
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What is hyperthreading? I never really got the concept of it.
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