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Hi chozart,

I agree. In all fairness to the team competition theme, honesty is the best policy, I think...

As for the gpu folding. As I stated, I might take my AMD64 3500+ and pair it with an X1900XT and M/B for folding. This rig would fold only. No other activity on it. So for me the instability when folding with the cpu would not be a problem, I think.

Thanks and take care, :-)

Normally, I would agree about cheating. But, if the goal is to cure cancer N such...then a little "pushing the envelope" is not a bad thing. It's not like we have money on the line here.
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Hahaha...

You can simply fold the GPU under another name
    
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Hahaha...

You can simply fold the GPU under another name
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post #34 of 41
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Hi chozart,

I agree. In all fairness to the team competition theme, honesty is the best policy, I think...

As for the gpu folding. As I stated, I might take my AMD64 3500+ and pair it with an X1900XT and M/B for folding. This rig would fold only. No other activity on it. So for me the instability when folding with the cpu would not be a problem, I think.

Thanks and take care, :-)
They beta is getting pulled in 2 months from everyones use, so i dont know if that would make much sense right now.
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post #35 of 41
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I think the rules are just fine. Most members will not get Quad Core. They can fold on two cores (or three) and on the remaining core(s) for themselves.

Also, I think the Quad Core owners will probably stay on their own, and not join a team.

I do agree, however, that we need clarity on the GPU folding issue.
While quad-core will not be an instant success, I believe that it will eventually rule the market like dual core did. I'm not saying that upon the release of Kentsfield OCN will suddenly become an all-quad core forum, but quad core is coming and I think that it would be prudent to take quad core into account before problems with the rules arise.
IMHO it's foolish to assume that quad-core owners will not want to join teams. What makes you think they wont?
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I think Quad Core owners want to go for the individual awards?

And even at this moment, Core 2 Duo is a minority in team folding. There are still plenty single core and other dual core CPUs out there

Again, even with Quad core, you can dedicate 2 or 3 cores to your team. The team competition's spirit is that those with lesser resources can compete. Thus, the person with a single core 3200+ or so can join a team, and compete that way. If you loosen the requirements, and allow four cores per person (and maybe... say, 12 per team), you put an extra burden on those who don't have quad core.

Those who will get quad core for folding purposes are likely die-hard folders who go for the individual awards. I don't see any of the top folders in a team right now.
    
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post #37 of 41
Hows about two folding divisions? One open division for say up to 20 cpu/gpu's per team and keep our current 8 cpu/gpu as the run-what-you-brung gang. Of course I think I just heard Tearic groan at the thought of another group to herd..
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I think Quad Core owners want to go for the individual awards?

And even at this moment, Core 2 Duo is a minority in team folding. There are still plenty single core and other dual core CPUs out there

Again, even with Quad core, you can dedicate 2 or 3 cores to your team. The team competition's spirit is that those with lesser resources can compete. Thus, the person with a single core 3200+ or so can join a team, and compete that way. If you loosen the requirements, and allow four cores per person (and maybe... say, 12 per team), you put an extra burden on those who don't have quad core.

Those who will get quad core for folding purposes are likely die-hard folders who go for the individual awards. I don't see any of the top folders in a team right now.
Short-term you are probably right. but long term quad cores will most likely gain a majority of users. ammending the rules (ammending - not necessarily loosening requirements) will future-proof the ONC F@H ring.

once again, im not saying that this is an emergency situation - but it would be a good idea to deal with the issue before its a problem - i.e. before people who want to compete are getting shut out because they upgraded
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Every folding program has an ID no matter if its single core, dual core, or quad and that gose for the GPU folding if you went through a setup program which you have to asign it a ID.
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Originally Posted by Chozart
I think Quad Core owners want to go for the individual awards?

And even at this moment, Core 2 Duo is a minority in team folding. There are still plenty single core and other dual core CPUs out there

Again, even with Quad core, you can dedicate 2 or 3 cores to your team. The team competition's spirit is that those with lesser resources can compete. Thus, the person with a single core 3200+ or so can join a team, and compete that way. If you loosen the requirements, and allow four cores per person (and maybe... say, 12 per team), you put an extra burden on those who don't have quad core.

Those who will get quad core for folding purposes are likely die-hard folders who go for the individual awards. I don't see any of the top folders in a team right now.
I think anything that brings more people and/or cores into folding is a good thing. The team competitions keeps us improving for better scores which in turn benifits the cause by putting out more WU's. With quad cores coming out, the C2D's will get cheaper and more will upgrade.

What if we did not limit cores at all but keep the 4 per team? What we could do is divide the points by the number of cores.

Team 1 - 256,000 points with 16 cores - Score = 4000
Team 2 - 64,000 points with 4 cores - Score = 4000

I'm not great with math but you can see my point. It will stay fair that way and bring in more WU's. Maybe the team leader could be responsible for supplying numbers for Taeric or whatever he needs to help him out.

This is going to grow, it's just setting it up to get the max potential which helps everyone.

Just some thoughts I had... It's all for the cause and Team 37726.
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