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Thanks for the help everyone, I'm planning on buying the monitor sometime later this week smile.gif

Let us know how it turns out. I was thinking about buying a couple of those "cheap" FW900's as backups. thumb.gif
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One thing I would consider a prerequisite to owning a CRT these days, that many people don't realize, is that you need to be willing to perform calibrations yourself if you want to get the best image possible. You need to take the time to search through the internet for details about CRT care and repair, and learn the different 'symptoms' you might encounter and what they indicate. You should at least learn how to perform some of the non-OSD calibrations such as G2 voltage, focus, and dynamic convergence, and be ready and willing to perform repairs down the line if you ever need to (this means opening up the monitor and playing with a soldering iron). These monitors are all between 8-12 years old, and it has gotten nearly impossible to find a TV repair shop that still knows how to work with CRTs. Sure you could just buy the monitor and use it as-is, but at this point I can almost guarantee that it will need some serious calibration when you buy it. And you should also re-calibrate it every time you move it. Changes in the Earth's magnetic field can and will throw off the convergence and purity.

I've owned 6 separate FW900's (I even ran 3 in eyefininty), and they are absolutely gorgeous monitors. No matter what anyone may say, they are NOT overhyped. If my house didn't have some sort of weird EMI that prevented me from using CRTs, I'd trade both my 30"ers to get that eyefinity setup back. But for now I've got a practically brand new, perfectly calibrated FW900 locked up in an Anvil case in my basement, just waiting for the day that I can use it.

I'm not trying to scare you away from the FW900, I'm just trying to let you know what you're getting into. If you're willing to put the effort into it, it will provide you with the absolute best gaming and video experience possible from a computer monitor today. If you aren't, then it's a complete gamble.
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One thing I would consider a prerequisite to owning a CRT these days, that many people don't realize, is that you need to be willing to perform calibrations yourself if you want to get the best image possible. You need to take the time to search through the internet for details about CRT care and repair, and learn the different 'symptoms' you might encounter and what they indicate. You should at least learn how to perform some of the non-OSD calibrations such as G2 voltage, focus, and dynamic convergence, and be ready and willing to perform repairs down the line if you ever need to (this means opening up the monitor and playing with a soldering iron). These monitors are all between 8-12 years old, and it has gotten nearly impossible to find a TV repair shop that still knows how to work with CRTs. Sure you could just buy the monitor and use it as-is, but at this point I can almost guarantee that it will need some serious calibration when you buy it. And you should also re-calibrate it every time you move it. Changes in the Earth's magnetic field can and will throw off the convergence and purity.
I've owned 6 separate FW900's (I even ran 3 in eyefininty), and they are absolutely gorgeous monitors. No matter what anyone may say, they are NOT overhyped. If my house didn't have some sort of weird EMI that prevented me from using CRTs, I'd trade both my 30"ers to get that eyefinity setup back. But for now I've got a practically brand new, perfectly calibrated FW900 locked up in an Anvil case in my basement, just waiting for the day that I can use it.
I'm not trying to scare you away from the FW900, I'm just trying to let you know what you're getting into. If you're willing to put the effort into it, it will provide you with the absolute best gaming and video experience possible from a computer monitor today. If you aren't, then it's a complete gamble.

Good post. Ever since I have started using a calibrated FW900, LCD's (even 120Hz) just don't work for me. I am going to try a 3x FW900 with bezels removed nVidia Surround setup with Kepler.

BTW do you live near overhead power lines? What about high-voltage underground power lines on your street? Just curious why you wouldn't be able to use a CRT. I'd imagine wavy and/or shaking image? Have you tried different rooms in the house, power conditioners and ground loop isolation?
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Wondering I have one of these sitting around and want to use it but the sides are starting to squeeze and there are ripples on the screen how would I repair this?
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Good post. Ever since I have started using a calibrated FW900, LCD's (even 120Hz) just don't work for me. I am going to try a 3x FW900 with bezels removed nVidia Surround setup with Kepler.
BTW do you live near overhead power lines? What about high-voltage underground power lines on your street? Just curious why you wouldn't be able to use a CRT. I'd imagine wavy and/or shaking image? Have you tried different rooms in the house, power conditioners and ground loop isolation?

The power lines are far enough away, the problem is that the cable from the street to my house is located right behind the wall of my office room. So yep, it causes a shaking image. It does work fine on the other side of the house, but it's not like I can just plop a CRT down in the middle of my living room tongue.gif

But yeah, LCDs really can't compare to a good condition, properly calibrated FW900. No matter what refresh rate they are capable of, the response time still holds them back.

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Wondering I have one of these sitting around and want to use it but the sides are starting to squeeze and there are ripples on the screen how would I repair this?

There are geometry adjustments in the OSD. I'm not sure what you mean by ripples on the screen, but try the moire setting (also in the OSD).
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The power lines are far enough away, the problem is that the cable from the street to my house is located right behind the wall of my office room. So yep, it causes a shaking image. It does work fine on the other side of the house, but it's not like I can just plop a CRT down in the middle of my living room tongue.gif
But yeah, LCDs really can't compare to a good condition, properly calibrated FW900. No matter what refresh rate they are capable of, the response time still holds them back.
There are geometry adjustments in the OSD. I'm not sure what you mean by ripples on the screen, but try the moire setting (also in the OSD).

tried these the squeeze is gone but for some reason the color are not as vibrant/popping as my dell 2209wa. Looks kinda washed out I would love to go back to this monitor but its just not as bright as my ips lcd.
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tried these the squeeze is gone but for some reason the color are not as vibrant/popping as my dell 2209wa. Looks kinda washed out I would love to go back to this monitor but its just not as bright as my ips lcd.

I adjust the contrast and saturation up in the nvidia/AMD control panels to add a little more "zing" to the image while gaming with my FW900. CRT's will never equal the brightness output of LED back lit LCD's. While testing an Apple 27" cinema display next to my FW900 that thing could get so bright it almost scorched my eyes.
But remember just having a super bright image isn't necessarily a great thing. Then you factor in IPS glow, back light bleed, poor blacks, horrendous motion blur and the FW900 comes out way ahead overall.
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tried these the squeeze is gone but for some reason the color are not as vibrant/popping as my dell 2209wa. Looks kinda washed out I would love to go back to this monitor but its just not as bright as my ips lcd.

Washed out, like where everything is grayish and the blacks aren't totally black?

Then you need to adjust the G2 voltage. There's a whole procedure for doing that, involving a software called WinDAS and a Serial->TTL cable. I'd explain it but I'm in a rush to go somewhere right now, check the thread on [H] I'm sure they have the info somewhere buried in there. You can also increase DRIVE_MAX at the same time, which increases the voltage to the heater and basically increases the image 'intensity'. Don't overdo it though, it'll kill your screen if you do.

Also, to get the best image out of a CRT you should use it in the dark. Once the lights are off and you give your eyes a few seconds to adjust, the CRT looks a lot brighter and more vibrant that it did before.

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I adjust the contrast and saturation up in the nvidia/AMD control panels to add a little more "zing" to the image while gaming with my FW900. CRT's will never equal the brightness output of LED back lit LCD's. While testing an Apple 27" cinema display next to my FW900 that thing could get so bright it almost scorched my eyes.
But remember just having a super bright image isn't necessarily a great thing. Then you factor in IPS glow, back light bleed, poor blacks, horrendous motion blur and the FW900 comes out way ahead overall.

You can also remove the anti-glare filter - it makes a HUGE difference!
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Washed out, like where everything is grayish and the blacks aren't totally black?
Then you need to adjust the G2 voltage. There's a whole procedure for doing that, involving a software called WinDAS and a Serial->TTL cable. I'd explain it but I'm in a rush to go somewhere right now, check the thread on [H] I'm sure they have the info somewhere buried in there. You can also increase DRIVE_MAX at the same time, which increases the voltage to the heater and basically increases the image 'intensity'. Don't overdo it though, it'll kill your screen if you do.
Also, to get the best image out of a CRT you should use it in the dark. Once the lights are off and you give your eyes a few seconds to adjust, the CRT looks a lot brighter and more vibrant that it did before.
You can also remove the anti-glare filter - it makes a HUGE difference!

Ya, I have a Unkle Vito FW900 and it is superb. I just got a Accurate IT FW900 in and it is pretty blurry. I've adjusted all of the on-screen controls and the fly-back focus pots but I cannot get it to clear up. Do you know what else I could try? If I adjust the horizontal convergence half the vertical screen goes way off convergence from the top and vice-versa.
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