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Hello OCN !

I won't lie, i'm new here, and I looked through the different forum sections but didn't see anywhere else I found more fitting to post about this, I don't know if this forum is actually designed for helping people with problems like mine, but I really couldn't find or think of anywhere else I thought of more fitting, and i'm getting kind of desperate to get this problem fixed (or atleast looked into by an expert on the topic)

My problem:

Recently i've been receiving the weirdest FPS spikes / stutters in most games to all games I play, BF3, SWTOR etc.. the spikes weren't that bad in BF3 whilst they were absolutely dreadful in SWTOR, I therefore assumed that the problem was due to bad engine optimization at first (since others had the problem) but up until recently I played in the first closed beta for another MMORPG called TERA, and I had the same weird lag spikes here too, it's not constant, but it's every 6th-10th second for a milisecond or so, sometimes even more frequently. When I first tried fixing the problem, I did all the basic stuff;

- Changed GFX settings from "Highest" to "Lowest" - Including decrease of resolution (no effect same weird lag spikes)
- Fiddled with my Firewall settings
- Installed new drivers for my GFX card
- Reinstalled games (such as SWTOR)
- Defragged my harddrive
- Cleaned out my PC cabinet (which was fairly clean already I guess)
- Reinstalled DX11 and certain DX9 files (some people thought I might be missing old files and that this was the cause of the lag)
- Changed my GFX card to a different (slightly older) GFX card to see if it was my card
- I recently changed the cooler on my GFX card because it was overheating and noisy as hell (AERO TWIN TURBO II.. or something)
- Windows updates.. and a TON of other things I can't recall right now!

I've thought to myself numerous times already "Why not just invest in a new rig?" and as much as I love the smell of a new computer or new components, I don't have infinite amounts of cash, and therefore use this as a last resort, (it's been about 1½-2 years since I bought and got my PC build)

My RIG is as following:

- Windows 7 64x bit
- ATI Radeon HD 5800 series (HD 5870) 1.024MB GDDR 5 RAM
- AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Processor 3,2 gHz
- ST3100528AS ATA Device (1 TB disk space)
- 8GB DDR3 RAM

I have never OC'd my components (not that i'm not willing to do this, to squeeze some more performance out of it, if this is the way to go, i'd be willing to do that).

I did this "Heaven DX11 Benchmark 2.5":

700

Furthermore i've done temperature readings (OUT OF GAMES):
(Using Core Temp and SpeedFan on the same time)

597

For whoever's been reading my thread, thank you so much for reading my wall of text, I am SO SORRY if this is the completely wrong place to ask for help with these kinds of things - for whoever's out there willing to look at the information I provided and give a helping hand, thanks a ton, you're my hero!

Attached my DxDiag as well !

- Staehren

DxDiag.txt 25k .txt file
post #2 of 8
Looks like a CPU problem, SWTOR is CPU demanding because it's a MMORPG, and your temps don't look normal so try to replace the thermal paste and if that doesn't work get an aftermarket cooler (I'm assuming you're using the AMD stock cooler), something like the Hyper 212+ would do good and it comes with thermal paste if you don't have already.
edit: your voltage doesn't look right either.. have you tried changing the voltage? or is it set on auto?
Edited by Thryack - 2/14/12 at 10:43am
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Try this. Go into graphics options for SWTOR and turn everything down to the lowest possible setting. See if the spikes continue. If they do, maybe take it one step further and turn down all the settings in CCC for your GPU. If the problem still persists then you are looking at two potential problems. First would be likely your CPU isn't keeping up. Second could be your internet connection. Maybe something is bogging down your network, perhaps you are having port interference caused by your firewall. Just a few thoughts that could give some results. Hope it helps.
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Looks like a CPU problem, SWTOR is CPU demanding because it's a MMORPG, and your temps don't look normal so try to replace the thermal paste and if that doesn't work get an aftermarket cooler (I'm assuming you're using the AMD stock cooler), something like the Hyper 212+ would do good and it comes with thermal paste if you don't have already.
edit: your voltage doesn't look right either.. have you tried changing the voltage? or is it set on auto?

- Which of the temps are the CPU temps exactly? Would cleaning out my CPU cooler perhaps help the temps? (Not fond of the idea of installing a new one, since i'm not that tech)
- How do i check/change my voltage? I'd like to look into this..
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Try this. Go into graphics options for SWTOR and turn everything down to the lowest possible setting. See if the spikes continue. If they do, maybe take it one step further and turn down all the settings in CCC for your GPU. If the problem still persists then you are looking at two potential problems. First would be likely your CPU isn't keeping up. Second could be your internet connection. Maybe something is bogging down your network, perhaps you are having port interference caused by your firewall. Just a few thoughts that could give some results. Hope it helps.

- I've tried what you said ingame before and with CCC in every possible combination, none of it resolved the issue the slightest.
- I had no idea internet connection could interfere with in-game performance in FPS? But i've tried fiddling with my firewall as well, made sure to allow the games free access through etc. Didn't work.

Thanks for the feedback, both of you!
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SWTOR has some optimization issues. There are people with uber nice setups having issues where they get literally 1 frame per second.


Hopefully it gets cleared up in the code.
 
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Originally Posted by Staehren View Post

Hello OCN !
I won't lie, i'm new here, and I looked through the different forum sections but didn't see anywhere else I found more fitting to post about this, I don't know if this forum is actually designed for helping people with problems like mine, but I really couldn't find or think of anywhere else I thought of more fitting, and i'm getting kind of desperate to get this problem fixed (or atleast looked into by an expert on the topic)
My problem:
Recently i've been receiving the weirdest FPS spikes / stutters in most games to all games I play, BF3, SWTOR etc.. the spikes weren't that bad in BF3 whilst they were absolutely dreadful in SWTOR, I therefore assumed that the problem was due to bad engine optimization at first (since others had the problem) but up until recently I played in the first closed beta for another MMORPG called TERA, and I had the same weird lag spikes here too, it's not constant, but it's every 6th-10th second for a milisecond or so, sometimes even more frequently. When I first tried fixing the problem, I did all the basic stuff;
- Changed GFX settings from "Highest" to "Lowest" - Including decrease of resolution (no effect same weird lag spikes)
- Fiddled with my Firewall settings
- Installed new drivers for my GFX card
- Reinstalled games (such as SWTOR)
- Defragged my harddrive
- Cleaned out my PC cabinet (which was fairly clean already I guess)
- Reinstalled DX11 and certain DX9 files (some people thought I might be missing old files and that this was the cause of the lag)
- Changed my GFX card to a different (slightly older) GFX card to see if it was my card
- I recently changed the cooler on my GFX card because it was overheating and noisy as hell (AERO TWIN TURBO II.. or something)
- Windows updates.. and a TON of other things I can't recall right now!
I've thought to myself numerous times already "Why not just invest in a new rig?" and as much as I love the smell of a new computer or new components, I don't have infinite amounts of cash, and therefore use this as a last resort, (it's been about 1½-2 years since I bought and got my PC build)
My RIG is as following:
- Windows 7 64x bit
- ATI Radeon HD 5800 series (HD 5870) 1.024MB GDDR 5 RAM
- AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Processor 3,2 gHz
- ST3100528AS ATA Device (1 TB disk space)
- 8GB DDR3 RAM
I have never OC'd my components (not that i'm not willing to do this, to squeeze some more performance out of it, if this is the way to go, i'd be willing to do that).
I did this "Heaven DX11 Benchmark 2.5":
700
Furthermore i've done temperature readings (OUT OF GAMES):
(Using Core Temp and SpeedFan on the same time)
597
For whoever's been reading my thread, thank you so much for reading my wall of text, I am SO SORRY if this is the completely wrong place to ask for help with these kinds of things - for whoever's out there willing to look at the information I provided and give a helping hand, thanks a ton, you're my hero!
Attached my DxDiag as well !
- Staehren
DxDiag.txt 25k .txt file

What in god's name is running at 82C? That sensor is either broken or you've got a problem! You didn't list your motherboard, but I'm going to take a stab and say it's the VRM temp. If that's the case, your problem is probably the CPU throttling.

Even with Q&C and C1E disabled, the processor can and will drop it's speed to reduce thermal load; the VRMs work the same way. Shutting down, sounds more VRM related than CPU, however. If they are heatsinked, add a fan by them. If they are not heatsinked, then I would get some for them.

Run an app like prime95, blend test, and watch zcpu and see if the processor is continually changing speeds.

The fix is better system cooling.
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Originally Posted by ozzy983 View Post

What in god's name is running at 82C? That sensor is either broken or you've got a problem! You didn't list your motherboard, but I'm going to take a stab and say it's the VRM temp. If that's the case, your problem is probably the CPU throttling.
Even with Q&C and C1E disabled, the processor can and will drop it's speed to reduce thermal load; the VRMs work the same way. Shutting down, sounds more VRM related than CPU, however. If they are heatsinked, add a fan by them. If they are not heatsinked, then I would get some for them.
Run an app like prime95, blend test, and watch zcpu and see if the processor is continually changing speeds.
The fix is better system cooling.

I think that might be his CPU socket temp. Although the cores are only 49C, his socket temp is probably through the roof.

I would advise the OP to consider checking his CPU cooler if its on correctly. 82C on anything but an Intel CPU has got to be dangerous especially with AMD chips.
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Originally Posted by ozzy983 View Post

What in god's name is running at 82C? That sensor is either broken or you've got a problem! You didn't list your motherboard, but I'm going to take a stab and say it's the VRM temp. If that's the case, your problem is probably the CPU throttling.
Even with Q&C and C1E disabled, the processor can and will drop it's speed to reduce thermal load; the VRMs work the same way. Shutting down, sounds more VRM related than CPU, however. If they are heatsinked, add a fan by them. If they are not heatsinked, then I would get some for them.
Run an app like prime95, blend test, and watch zcpu and see if the processor is continually changing speeds.
The fix is better system cooling.

Yeah but I read somewhere that the 82C temp is broken, it's not sensoring anything, like it doesn't change in temps either like all the others do, it just stays at 82C, but i'm getting an Ivy Bridge CPU once they release, along with a 600 series GeForce GPU, or the AMD 7950 probably.
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