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post #1 of 10
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Need a new motherboard but I dont know which ones are good for the money... I looked on newegg reviews and didnt seem to convince me to buy any boards heh...I know you guys are better help! soo do ya thing and help me choose a board that will support a core 2 duo and thats around $180
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post #2 of 10
Well.... I see you have a northwood CPU with DDR RAM right now. That's socket 478.

Core 2 Duo is socket T (LGA775) and requires DDR2 RAM. If you want a board that supports Core 2 Duo, you'll need a new CPU and RAM also.

But ok, you might already be prepared for the rest of the rig, so here we go:

My candidates:
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 $142.99 + $6.13 shipping = $149.12
Pro: excellent overclocking results, good overall board
Cons: no dual graphics, lacks RAID on the southbridge

ASUS P5B Deluxe $194.99 + $6.94 shipping = $201.93
Pro: one of the best overclockers out there, excellent board, can do Crossfire and SLI (with modded drivers)
Cons: Crossfire/SLI only at x16, x4 mode.

Reasonable boards with the 975X chipset will cost a bit more. My DFI board is more or less in your price range, but I would not recommend it, esp. if you're looking for a board that can get you a high FSB (which you want if you're getting a E6300 or E6600). Also, the latest BIOS has limited overclocking functions, but there is a beta BIOS out there that gives more options. Only reason I got it is that I run Crossfire, and needed a cheap board to carry me over until DFI's RD600 board comes out.

finally, what is the total budget for your Core 2 Duo rig, and which parts do you plan on getting? Maybe we can help you with the entire rig.
    
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post #3 of 10
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I would want to spend around $1800 for this rig......Hmm I like that Asus board you posted... Well here is some of the stuff I was planning on getting...

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003
Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131045
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144021 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231084

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341002

Video Card - Either something cheaper or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102051

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136011 and I was thinking maybe a cheap 80gb HD just for music n movies..Don't really need any raid.. But to do raid I need to buy something right?

Sound - Many people say this is a good sound card... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102189

Case - Can't really decide yet...Looking for something that Will hold alot of fans and has good ventilation ..

Yeaa... so This is all I can think of at the moment.. What else am I Missing? oh.. goign to have to buy xp pro to .. uhmm when I do buy all the parts and the OS.. after I put up windows ..If i have to reformat , is there a program that reformats or you out there or would I have to put the Cd in and reinstall everything?
On my HP it has a program built in that does a "destructive recovery" so it reinstalls all the factory apps.
This is All of what i decided so far... I Still need help on finding EVERYTHING ELSE tho... So any help will be much appreciated
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post #4 of 10
Very good picks. Here are my suggestions (several are the same):
Total: $1,755.92 + $55.39 shipping = $1,811.31

Now, that's similar to your picks. However, the main changes I made are:
  • Better and more expensive RAM
  • Cheaper, but excellent soundcard
  • Two very good HDD's for RAID; you won't need to buy anything else. RAID can be set up on board. Pro of RAID: better bandwidth than RAPTOR; more storage space for less money. Cons of RAID: marginally higher risk of failure (in practical terms neary negligible); worse seek times/access times than RAPTOR. In my opinion, RAID is a better solution than a single RAPTOR
  • Added a case: I went for the best case that exactly fit your budget. If you want to save some money on the case, you can get this version of the Thermaltake Armor, and add this side panel with the 250mm fan. However, the black (steel) version is significantly heavier than the silver version. The total cost of the case will then be $185.98 + $32.15 shipping = $218.13 (ok, that ended up saving only $10 with the much higher shipping costs that those of the silver version )
    
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post #5 of 10
I would definitely think about changing your DDR selection to G'skill HZ's, Super Talents, or Corsairs....

Hoep this helps
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post #6 of 10
Wow that is very similar to the build I am starting on today as soon as UPS and Fedex show up.

As far as a case check on this one also (Antec P180), it appears to have good sound dampening, great airflow with dual chambers and plenty of places for fans.

If you would like to see a good video review click on this link, then click on the "see it at Buytv" button.

Whatever you decide I think you will be happy with the forum members recommendations here, this is a great site!
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post #7 of 10
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Would I have to buy a raid card? or the board has it all ready? uhmm I can basically order my computer whenever just need more help on choosing another HD... DO i have to have raid at all? how much big of a difference is it? If its not a big increase in performance wise then Ill just stick to one good Hd like that raptor X and then maybe a cheap little 80gb or something for music and videos. but neway i still need to find some good fans/Slot cooling/cpu cooling and a case with a window on the side for about $100
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post #8 of 10
You do not need an extra controller card. RAID can be set up on the motherboard we selected, and it's not too hard. You'll need to have a floppy drive though to install drivers during Windows install.

Here are advantages of RAID0 compared with a single Raptor 150GB

Advantages of RAID0:
  • Higher read and write performance in terms of bandwidth
  • More storage space
  • Cheaper (both in terms in total cost and in $/GB)
Advantages of Raptor:
  • Better access times
  • Slightly higher level of dependability (RAID0 contains two drives; if one fails, the whole array fails. However, what is the risk of disk failure anyways)

Either RAID0 or a single Raptor X will give you excellent performance. I personally would choose the RAID solution from a perspective of cost effectiveness. Taking mail in rebates into consideration, the RAID solution is about $40 cheaper, and gives you more than triple the storage space. Check my RAID related FAQs and the links contained therein for a complete overview.

Some cases:
Basic, no nonsense, but good quality: COOLER MASTER Centurion RC-534-KWN1-GP Black $54.99
If you like it: XION XION II XON-103 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower $69.99 (they have different colors)
Going up a bit more in price: AeroCool AeroEngineII-SSP $76.99
An Apevia: APEVIA (ASPIRE) X-CRUISER-BK/420 $85.99

Fans:
SILVERSTONE FM121-B 120mm 2 Ball Case Cooling Fan $14.99

Heatsink:
Scythe SCINF-1000 120mm CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink $51.99
Many other good ones...this is just an example
    
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post #10 of 10
Since you're getting a x1900xt I think you might want to be a little future proof, and be crossfire ready, just in case dx10 makes a mess.

You could try a DFI Infinity like Chozart, only about $20 more than the Gigabyte.

I almost bought that board until I cracked and got a p5w dh, It seems to be able to keep its head up with all the more expensive 975 based motherboards.
    
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