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I haven't seen much helpful from yourself either. If you want help, provide as many details as you can. You call this a "Kill Coil", the ENTIRE thread people are commenting that it looks like solder, you never acknowledge it, then isolate one person to start bashing.
So what is it? Silver solder? "Scrap silver"? Lead solder? How do you know for sure that it's .999%?
[edit] I see your post above questioning the composition of this metal...

You should start at the first post where most people would gather all the facts before calling shots. If the entire thread is saying it's solder, I must acknowledge each one? It can't be a silent acknowledgement? C'mon man, get over yourself.
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Of course it depends on the materials. It can be fast but I am assuming that with the standard materials used today, it should not be oxidating. Aluminum would do it, but no one uses aluminum anymore thumb.gif
Edit: It would be nice if the OP said where the wire was bought..........

Think at it man.

What could possibly change the color of a metal?

- Micro-organisms
-Corrosion/oxidation

In two weeks?

Both plausible

Only that particular piece of the loop?

Only corrosion/oxydation

If you can see that thing somewhere else like inside the tubing, then you certainly have micro-organisms.


Try to reproduce the phenomenon, won't cost you more to see if there any thing that change after cleaning the metal! After if the problem persist then you don't have the choice to anyway disassemble the loop.
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You should start at the first post where most people would gather all the facts before calling shots. If the entire thread is saying it's solder, I must acknowledge each one? It can't be a silent acknowledgement? C'mon man, get over yourself.

lachen.gif you assume too much

You still haven't acknowledged what it is you're using or where you got it. Had you mentioned this little detail, there would not be 3 pages of people saying "hey, it looks like silver solder".
 
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Think at it man.
What could possibly change the color of a metal?
- Micro-organisms
-Corrosion/oxidation
In two weeks?
Both plausible
Only that particular piece of the loop?
Only corrosion/oxydation
If you can see that thing somewhere else like inside the tubing, then you certainly have micro-organisms.
Try to reproduce the phenomenon, won't cost you more to see if there any thing that change after cleaning the metal! After if the problem persist then you don't have the choice to anyway disassemble the loop.

I agree to a point. But if you read on radiator manufacturing a bit, some the 'flux' material used to produce the rads breaks off and some of it clings to silver. He may just have to clean the rads some more...rolleyes.gif
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lachen.gif you assume too much
You still haven't acknowledged what it is you're using or where you got it. Had you mentioned this little detail, there would not be 3 pages of people saying "hey, it looks like silver solder".

It's in the first post. I have not acknowledged it because as mentioned in the first post, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I can't confirm what I don't know.

As to where I got it, I'm still looking for the jewelers website where I purchased it.

So does that mean you acknowledge that no one really read the first post for this little detail and just started spouting the same group think idea over and over? That's why I left my tactful side at the guy who kept repeating it. He obviously was stirring the pot.
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Totally agree, read my post! I think you misunderstood me or I didn't explain well myself.


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I would take the loop apart and check if there is any sign of algea/oxidation, clean everything with diluted hot vinegar with distilled/demineralized water (rinse the radiator with the solution a couple of time [don't reuse the solution though])... Radiators have a lot of nasties in it and you must clean them well before use!


@ takt
Forget about the impure silver route. If you really think the silver isn't .99999999999 pure then just go to a jeweler and buy a gramm or so, doesn't matter. Put it in the system and see if you can reproduce the result.
Or do what is on the quote above biggrin.gif
Edited by Just a nickname - 2/14/12 at 11:22pm
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I think its solder lol. sorry couldnt help myself good luck cleaning your loop.
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I agree to a point. But if you read on radiator manufacturing a bit, some the 'flux' material used to produce the rads breaks off and some of it clings to silver. He may just have to clean the rads some more...rolleyes.gif
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Totally agree, read my post! I think you misunderstood me or I didn't explain well myself.
@ takt
Forget about the impure silver route. If you really think the silver isn't .99999999999 pure then just go to a jeweler and buy a gramm or so, doesn't matter. Put it in the system and see if you can reproduce the result.
Or do what is on the quote above biggrin.gif

I flushed out the rad the first cleaning with vinegar and the solution that came out was dark blue. So the flux or copper oxide (? my chem is bad) was probably coming off. I flushed twice.

I will try to go to a proper place that sells .999 pure silver and buy a few grams and just throw it in the loop. I'm curious now if that coil I have is even silver. I guess this would be a good way to test it out.

Do you use any corrosion inhibitor or just pure silver kill coil?
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It's just jeweler's .999 silver. It's a 3ft long 16 gauge wire that I coiled up into a big spring.
Thanks, we heard you the first time.

Silver doesn't coil up like a spring because there is no tension on anything made from silver, silver is soft and bends easily. Whatever that is its not .999 silver, any impurities in your coil can cause problems, also I would put the coil in the main flow in the tubing after your pumps outlet.
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Just silver and distilled water.
    
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