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Have you run any benchmarks on the CPU to see if it is performing correctly? What happens when you set only 2 cores to work for BC2?
The other thing I would look at is the GPU, drivers playing nice? Do you have the same settings for video performance in game?

i don't know like i said i haven't had that phenom system in over a year but i remember struggling to run BC2 on any setting. and the drivers were 11.7's they were good for every single game just BC2 ran like poo for some reason.
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The only way to be sure would be to bench each system and so on. Did you ever try to overclock that Phenom? Chances are that Phenom might have been bad or the board was bad.
Because that Phenom should have out performed the X2 by a good amount in a game like BC2...

i think the board was bad.
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Dumb question, but are you letting the game choose its settings automatically?
Perhaps it sees the Athlon and cranks down on the settings?

no i run on high for 8 player servers and low for full servers.

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A multiplayer experience--especially in BF3 which has entirely unpredictable FPS differences between servers and maps and # of players--is not a good way to gauge things.
Run CPU and GPU benchmarks (not multiplayer games) and compare the two. If there's not an improvement on the quad system, then the quad system has a problem. If the only difference is in multiplayer BF3, then your problem lies with the game or with the servers.

i find they are very consistent a server with 8 people gives the same fps today as a different one did yesterday accept now i get even higher FPS because i installed the CCC 12.1 drivers. I don't know anything about BF3.
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A bad board would do it!

I just remembered I updated my little brothers system from an Athlon X2 6000 to a Phenom ii 830 (oem chip) on an Asus m3a78 Pro motherboard and there was a definite performance increase, all stock settings on the CPU.
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A bad board would do it!
I just remembered I updated my little brothers system from an Athlon X2 6000 to a Phenom ii 830 (oem chip) on an Asus m3a78 Pro motherboard and there was a definite performance increase, all stock settings on the CPU.

sweet i wonder how my phenom II will run BC2 with a new board, last time i used it it was with the bad board and it barely managed 30 fps on low. biggrin.gif
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i find they are very consistent a server with 8 people gives the same fps today as a different one did yesterday accept now i get even higher FPS because i installed the CCC 12.1 drivers. I don't know anything about BF3.

Ah, apologies--I thought you were running BF3 (I see BC2 now). doh.gif

I would still do benchmark comparisons between the two systems to understand what's going on (i.e., to remove the likelihood that it's a hardware problem).
    
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Ah, apologies--I thought you were running BF3 (I see BC2 now). doh.gif
I would still do benchmark comparisons between the two systems to understand what's going on (i.e., to remove the likelihood that it's a hardware problem).

lol i don't care for BF3, I don't have the 9750 anymore i sold it 2 years ago.
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If you haven't tried your old phenom system in over a year there really isn't a fair comparison.

Drivers change, patches for the game come out.

Also your frame rate averages seem to be non benchmark driven so there could be some difference in the load.

Also the settings might have changed.

If the computer shuts itself off though I'd look at the psu or the motherboard.
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If you haven't tried your old phenom system in over a year there really isn't a fair comparison.
Drivers change, patches for the game come out.
Also your frame rate averages seem to be non benchmark driven so there could be some difference in the load.
Also the settings might have changed.
If the computer shuts itself off though I'd look at the psu or the motherboard.

I'm almost positive it was the motherboard, here is why if i even put more than 1 stick of ram in the board it would shut right off after turning it on but if i only used it worked fine, I am using the same PSU and i run crysis 2 for hours and never had any issues accept cpu bottleneck lol.
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sweet i wonder how my phenom II will run BC2 with a new board, last time i used it it was with the bad board and it barely managed 30 fps on low. biggrin.gif

Well if its your sig rig then should handle it pretty well. I ran a 4870 on my q9550 back in the day and it was vary playable. The game still wants a clock of around 3.6-3.8ghz though for best performance. I was able to get my buddy's unlocked phenom to 3.6ghz on a orb cooler, so even that shouldn't be to much of a problem, really just have to watch your memory clocks and keep them as close to stock as possible. I was running BC2 on high no AA with the 4870 and it ran pretty good, note my was the 512 version. I see that you board can do CF 8x 8x, right? Pick up another 48701gb and CF them, 5870 performance for another 70bucks. I eventually ran 2 4870 512's in CF and It was able to max BC2 with Max AA and settings no problem despite my lack of video memory. This was all @ 1680x1050 at the though though, but did run my 1080p monitor for a few months and the cards had no problem with the increased rez.
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Well if its your sig rig then should handle it pretty well. I ran a 4870 on my q9550 back in the day and it was vary playable. The game still want's a clock of around 3.6-3.8ghz though for best performance. I was able to get my buddy's unlocked phenom to 3.6ghz on a orb cooler, so even that shouldn't be to much of a problem, really just have to watch your memory clocks and keep them as close to stock as possible. I was running BC2 on high no AA with the 4870 and it ran pretty good, note my was the 512 version. I see that you board can do CF 8x 8x, right? Pick up another 48701gb and CF them, 5870 performance for another 70bucks. I eventually ran 2 4870 512's in CF and It was able to max BC2 with Max AA and settings no problem despite my lack of video memory. This was all @ 1680x1050 at the though though, but did run my 1080p monitor for a few months and the cards had no problem with the increased rez.

yup it will be my sig rig, i know the sweet spot for my ram biggrin.gif i had it for a few years if i run base clock at 235 and i turn memory back to 667MHz the overclock will force it to run at 800 biggrin.gif. i do plan to get another 4870 in a few months saving up right now for a corsair 750 and a 4870. i only run at 1440x900 thumb.gif
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yup it will be my sig rig, i know the sweet spot for my ram biggrin.gif i had it for a few years if i run base clock at 235 and i turn memory back to 667MHz the overclock will force it to run at 800 biggrin.gif. i do plan to get another 4870 in a few months saving up right now for a corsair 750 and a 4870. i only run at 1440x900 thumb.gif

also if you can for your second video card I recommend one with a blower instead of a fan. Use the card with the blower as primary card and the fan one on the bottom. That way the cards dont get super hot, I ran my 2 470's next to each other and didn't have room to breath, cards would load at 96c ended up going water to get around that.
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