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I have spent the past week learning about how to build a computer and at this point I need some help/advice.

My goal is to build a PC that will be for gaming. I will play mostly racing games, but will also play games such as Skyrim. I will be using a Samsung 46" LCD 1080p. Samsung 46C670. (It is the same as the Samsung 46c650, it is just numbered different for Best Buy) I also have a racing rig with a Fanatec Racing Wheel. Sorry if this is to much information, just want everyone to know the full story. I think the tv will be fine, but if that is a problem, please let me know.

I have put together this build and I am looking for any advice. This is a little more expensive then I was wanting, but I don't know if I can make it any cheaper. Price isn't really a concern, other then just trying to be practical.

UPDATED 2/15/12 - This is what I am going with unless I hear a compelling argument against some form of this.

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor $200

CPU COOLER - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $34

MOBO - ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) $ 210

MEMORY - G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $42

HARD DRIVE - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $105

VIDEO CARD - Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card $450

CASE - Rosewill BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case $90

POWER SUPPLY - PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III PPCMK3S600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular $70

OPTICAL DRIVE - Samsung SH-222AB DVD/CD Writer $20

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home OEM

Another thing, I saw a logitech keyboard/mouse combo that was wireless for 30. I will probably pick up something like this. I plan to play the none racing games with a wired XBOX 360 controller.

It adds up to $1337 with the OEM Windows.

I think all these parts will work with each other. I used pcpartpicker.com, so I assume that they are.

I appreciate any feedback, both positive and negative.
Edited by Mbalmer - 2/15/12 at 9:52pm
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post #2 of 45
Everything looks pretty good, just a few suggestions.
1. Try and look in the marketplace on OCN for a used 6970, could probably knock off a bit of money.
2. I would switch the Gskill value ram with the ripjaws/ripjawx as those are better.
3. DO NOT GET THAT POWER SUPPLY. Sorry, just had to make sure you read that as that is the weakest part of the build. I would recommend power supplies from Corsair and Seasonic. There are more, I just don't know them. Go to the PSU section on the forums and look at the PSU guide as it is thorough on what is good.
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How about one of these for a power supply? How do I know how many Watts I need? I would like to get the 620 one, but do I need 750? What makes the 750 better? (If it is better)

Both of these are modular, which I would prefer.

SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze ATX12V / EPS12V 620W Modular $87

Corsair HX750 ATX12V / EPS12V 750W $127


Here is a permalink to the build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4K7t
Edited by Mbalmer - 2/14/12 at 11:18pm
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Here is a calculator that will give you a rough estimate of what you will need: http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
For the question of which one is better, just look at reviews of each one. Since they are both in the guide I am assuming that they are both good choices.
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Originally Posted by Mbalmer View Post

I have spent the past week learning about how to build a computer and at this point I need some help/advice.
My goal is to build a PC that will be for gaming. I will play mostly racing games, but will also play games such as Skyrim. I will be using a Samsung 46" LCD 1080p. Samsung 46C670. (It is the same as the Samsung 46c650, it is just numbered different for Best Buy) I also have a racing rig with a Fanatec Racing Wheel. Sorry if this is to much information, just want everyone to know the full story. I think the tv will be fine, but if that is a problem, please let me know.
I have put together this build and I am looking for any advice. This is a little more expensive then I was wanting, but I don't know if I can make it any cheaper. Price isn't really a concern, other then just trying to be practical.

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor $200

CPU COOLER - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $34

MOBO - Asus P8Z68-V LE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $130

MEMORY - G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $37

HARD DRIVE - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $105

VIDEO CARD - XFX Radeon HD 6970 2GB Video Card $350

CASE - BitFenix Outlaw ATX Mid Tower Case $50 (Really don't know what to do on this)

POWER SUPPLY - Raidmax 730W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $60 (This is another thing I am clueless on)

OPTICAL DRIVE - Samsung SH-222AB DVD/CD Writer $20

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $100 ( I could see myself just getting the discs for $190)

As far as mouse and keyboard go, I have some old ones around the house and I would just use that for the time being. I plan to play the none racing games with a wired XBOX 360 controller.
It adds up to $1086 with the OEM Windows.
I think all these parts will work with each other. I used pcpartpicker.com, so I assume that they are.
I appreciate any feedback, both positive and negative.

thing that i have highlighted needs to be changed

Motherboard : u can get a lot better motherboard for the same price

Video Card : dont go with XFX GPU they dont have good RMA services and you can get a better and a cooler card at the same rate

CASE : i have never heard of it but go with a NZXT Source 210 @ 40$ a lot lot lot better Case

PSU : dont go with that brand PSU they are not good they usually tend to blow up

here are the things what i would recommend u
480
Total 1120$

go with Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-550 550W 70$ so that total is 1100$ thumb.gif
Edited by Tarun - 2/15/12 at 12:08am
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thing that i have highlighted needs to be changed
Motherboard : u can get a lot better motherboard for the same price
Video Card : dont go with XFX GPU they dont have good RMA services and you can get a better and a cooler card at the same rate
CASE : i have never heard of it but go with a NZXT Source 210 @ 40$ a lot lot lot better Case
PSU : dont go with that brand PSU they are not good they usually tend to blow up
here are the things what i would recommend u
480
Total 1120$
go with Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-550 550W 70$ so that total is 1100$ thumb.gif

His budget is $1000. The only thing he really needs to change in his build is the Power Supply (that 620W Seasonic unit you mentioned is a great choice thumb.gif). That HDD you posted is only 5400RPM, which isn't appropriate for a $1000 gaming build. His original motherboard choice was fine as well.

I do agree with you, though, about the graphics card. 6970's run hot, and you'll probably find the IceQ a lot cooler/quieter than the XFX card.
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post #7 of 45
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Thanks for the info guys.

I did notice about the 5400 HD and I would prefer the 7200.

I will check out the different video card that you both suggested. I will stay with the 620W Seasonic (thanks tarun for leading me in this direction).

Since the 6970's run hot, should I consider a different model? I just thought it sounded really good. I will check out the IceQ one you both mentioned. It is hard for someone that is new to all of this to make a decision since there are so many different versions of the 6970.

I'm up in the air about the MOBO, maybe someone else can chime in.

Also, should I go up to 16mb of RAM? Does it make that big of a difference?

I don't really have a 1000 budget per say, so I could always go up on the price. I just really don't want to spend 1500 on a computer, but will if I have to.


Thanks again.
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post #8 of 45
No, 16GB (you said mb on accident lol) is overkill for gaming.
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I will stay with the 8GB and leave the 16MB at the store. Thanks for the reply.
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post #10 of 45
If you can spend $100, get the 7950.
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