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According to this http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/iiyama-prolite-x2775hds-p12146/test.html

Your monitor should be a bit slow for gaming in terms of ghosting.
    
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I know, i was just telling the other member about what causes tearing because he said it was nothing to do with the monitor. smile.gif

Thank you for clarifying. I may have to look into my monitor then because it's also tearing. It's a u2312hm.
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Thank you for clarifying. I may have to look into my monitor then because it's also tearing. It's a u2312hm.

What refresh rate is it bud?
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What refresh rate is it bud?

Nevermind. I just tested my u2312hm on my other computer and it had no tearing. It is my video card driver that's causing the screen tear.
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Nevermind. I just tested my u2312hm on my other computer and it had no tearing. It is my video card driver that's causing the screen tear.

Was vsync on the other computer? Within the 3d application you tested on or within the settings?
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Originally Posted by tjangel07 View Post

According to this http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/iiyama-prolite-x2775hds-p12146/test.html
Your monitor should be a bit slow for gaming in terms of ghosting.

Thats not my monitor is use atm.

This is my monitor:
http://www.iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-e2773hds-1/#specification





I tryed resetting CCC to factory defaults and it didnt make a difference, tryed some various settings to but nothing helps the problem.
Think i just need to learn to live with it frown.gif seems like all [or most] LCD monitors do frown.gif
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Screen tearing, or "vsync chop" as I call it, is due to SEVERAL different factors IMO. My old computer was an Asus p5b-Deluxe, socket 775, with a core2duo and 260gtx. It would have tearing in some engines, but others like Crysis would be flawless. Now I use an i5-760 and a 570gtx and the tearing is definitely less than before in all engines, so Nvidia may have made progress in architectural changes to combat it. Other factors like mouse settings definitely affect it. Try different mouse settings and you'll easily notice that some settings offer extremely smooth FOV pans, while others result in chop. Then you have monitor quality. Some just have cheap components that won't sync worth a flying ****.

The last thing I can think of is pre-render settings. If you're using a single card with vsync off, pre-render should always be set to 1 if you want the least chop possible. Turn hyperthreading off in bios and in Nvidia drivers too.

As for monitors, I've owned a lot of LCD's. Some definitely have more chop than others. I currently use a Samsung P2770H and it has a pretty low/non-existent amount of chop, about the same as my old NEC 20wmgx2. What's really weird is, I used to have this piece of crap MVA panel from LG. It was absolutely horrible for gaming due to terrible pixel response but I couldn't make it have vsync chop no matter what I did to it! I think this monitor had some kind of hardware function that always synced frames before displaying them or something.
Edited by r0ach - 2/17/12 at 8:00pm
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i have the exact same problem, but it is the tv fault

in my case a crap lg lcd 32ld330 1360*768 hdmi

even with vsync on, there is this annoying line going from up to down, is like some tearing when you disable vsync but it is something else

alse black colors create a ghosting effect, not really a problem,

there is nothing to do here, buy some other tv
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Screen tearing, or "vsync chop" as I call it, is due to SEVERAL different factors IMO. My old computer was an Asus p5b-Deluxe, socket 775, with a core2duo and 260gtx. It would have tearing in some engines, but others like Crysis would be flawless. Now I use an i5-760 and a 570gtx and the tearing is definitely less than before in all engines, so Nvidia may have made progress in architectural changes to combat it. Other factors like mouse settings definitely affect it. Try different mouse settings and you'll easily notice that some settings offer extremely smooth FOV pans, while others result in chop. Then you have monitor quality. Some just have cheap components that won't sync worth a flying ****.
The last thing I can think of is pre-render settings. If you're using a single card with vsync off, pre-render should always be set to 1 if you want the least chop possible. Turn hyperthreading off in bios and in Nvidia drivers too.
As for monitors, I've owned a lot of LCD's. Some definitely have more chop than others. I currently use a Samsung P2770H and it has a pretty low/non-existent amount of chop, about the same as my old NEC 20wmgx2. What's really weird is, I used to have this piece of crap MVA panel from LG. It was absolutely horrible for gaming due to terrible pixel response but I couldn't make it have vsync chop no matter what I did to it! I think this monitor had some kind of hardware function that always synced frames before displaying them or something.

I dont have problems with tearing, i have problems with ghosting/trailing.

I see how a mouse maybe could affect it, mine is on 1800dpi, if i would set it to 1000dpi the movement in games like The Witcher 2, Skyrim and so on would be slower and thuss leave less trails or signs of ghosting. Thing is though i like playing on 1800dpi and 1800dpi isnt that fast either.
I will try and see if different mouse settings work though.

I have tryed 4 monitors now and only 1 off them [the OAC] has a bit lower responce time, but all of them leave signs of ghosting/trailing.

I cant see how Hyperthreading has a part in this problem but i will also try it with HT off.
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If you're using a single card with vsync off, pre-render should always be set to 1 if you want the least chop possible.

Pre-render set to 1 ?
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If you're using a single card with vsync off, pre-render should always be set to 1 if you want the least chop possible.

I can see why you have suggested that, but OP is using AMD, not NVIDIA. Also if he did use this setting, the input lag might not be very nice with that high dpi mouse setting.
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