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2/15/12 at 5:39pm
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The high end 27 inch iMac can house a 3.4GHz i7 2600 and a AMD Radeon HD 6970M and it manages to stay cool with silent fans, of course when gaming the temperatures shoot up and as far as I know the fans stay silent even then, too. Albeit the Quadro's do have a 100w TDP vs 80w TDP on the 6970M. It still should be possible to stay cool.

I havnt used the latest generation of macbooks, but I do know the older ones have a reputation for catching on fire - a reputation I have validated first hand.

Couple that with the fact that I've never met a laptop without overheating issues that wasn't either severely under powered or sounded like a jet turbine, and im going to have to call your bluff. Doesn't help your argument that you're sporting an apple logo as your avatar.
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Based on a picture of the finished product, you think you know better than HP's engineers?

I don't have to know better than their engineers. Engineers aren't the ones coming up with the hairbrained idea to cram high end components into poorly ventilated, small, "sleek" cases with inadequate airflow. They just nod their head and do the best job they can when their boss tells them it needs to be done.

Under the size, style, and budget constraints given to them, even the best engineer is going to have to make the choice between inadequate hardware or inadequate cooling.

There is a reason that after 30 years of laptops, they're still overpriced, under powered, overheating pieces of junk with the soul redeeming quality of portability.
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2/15/12 at 6:13pm
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I havnt used the latest generation of macbooks, but I do know the older ones have a reputation for catching on fire - a reputation I have validated first hand.
Couple that with the fact that I've never met a laptop without overheating issues that wasn't either severely under powered or sounded like a jet turbine, and im going to have to call your bluff. Doesn't help your argument that you're sporting an apple logo as your avatar.

I don't have to know better than their engineers. Engineers aren't the ones coming up with the hairbrained idea to cram high end components into poorly ventilated, small, "sleek" cases with inadequate airflow. They just nod their head and do the best job they can when their boss tells them it needs to be done.
Under the size, style, and budget constraints given to them, even the best engineer is going to have to make the choice between inadequate hardware or inadequate cooling.
There is a reason that after 30 years of laptops, they're still overpriced, under powered, overheating pieces of junk with the soul redeeming quality of portability.

Bro my mom doesn't monitor temps on her computer, nor does she even put any sort of load on it. Probably why she bought an HP.

It's cool enough that it won't break max temp limits and quiet enough customers won't complain. Works fine for the average consumer.


Also this device fails @ internal printer.
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post #23 of 32
2/15/12 at 6:19pm
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I havnt used the latest generation of macbooks, but I do know the older ones have a reputation for catching on fire - a reputation I have validated first hand.
Care to elaborate? I've never heard of them catching on fire -- I'd doubt it was anything but a faulty component if true though. Any laptop would power down long before that happens. Oh, and MacBook or MacBook Pro?
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Couple that with the fact that I've never met a laptop without overheating issues that wasn't either severely under powered or sounded like a jet turbine, and im going to have to call your bluff. Doesn't help your argument that you're sporting an apple logo as your avatar.
An iMac isn't a laptop?
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post #24 of 32
2/15/12 at 8:59pm
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Bro my mom doesn't monitor temps on her computer, nor does she even put any sort of load on it. Probably why she bought an HP.
It's cool enough that it won't break max temp limits and quiet enough customers won't complain. Works fine for the average consumer.
Also this device fails @ internal printer.

Average consumer, aka your mum, doesn't need a workstation to begin with. A pentium 3 with 512 mb of ram running windows 2000 would likely suffice for her ms word and internet explorer. Heck, make it ubuntu with openoffice and most people wouldn't know the difference if not perhaps for netflix not working.

People actually buying these things are buying them because they are high end machines, and high end machines are only worth buying if they're going to be given a suitable workload.
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An iMac isn't a laptop?

iMac isn't a workstation either.
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Care to elaborate? I've never heard of them catching on fire -- I'd doubt it was anything but a faulty component if true though. Any laptop would power down long before that happens. Oh, and MacBook or MacBook Pro?

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2/15/12 at 9:23pm
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iMac isn't a workstation either.
And how does that mean it's not able to handle an i7 2600 and 6970M? The aluminium back of the iMac gets very hot, but the fans stay at ~1000 RPM constantly.
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From a brief look at your Google search, it's only a couple of MacBook Pro's that had this happen, and it looks like it had to do with the magsafe connection / charger, and not the laptop itself. Any component that exceeds it's maximum temperature will shut off, but if it's a fault with the magsafe obviously there's nothing to shut off -- I'm glad to say that Apple has improved the charger since then. I'm sure I could find other laptops that have caught on fire, or melted.
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2/15/12 at 9:29pm
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It's too bad they don't make one of these to compete with the iMac, it'd be good competition I'd say, but it's a bit too expensive and has no consumer GPUs or quad-core i5/i7 processors. I'm not sure why they wouldn't offer those as well.


It's a workstation, it's not targeted at consumers.

 

 

Anyway, I really don't see how this AIO would be practical at all. AIOs are simply a bad idea altogether and especially so as workstations. If I were in the market for a workstation I wouldn't even glance at it.

 

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2/15/12 at 9:31pm
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Wow. Looks good.
Also:
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Man, that music sounds VERY familiar... Anyone know what it is? Reminds me of the music from the trailer of the latest Star Trek.

Pretty sure that HP design team likes Deus Ex: Human Rev. wink.gif


Anyway, pretty slick and will sell well in my opinion. Hope they make a consumer version.
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It's a workstation, it's not targeted at consumers.


Anyway, I really don't see how this AIO would be practical at all. AIOs are simply a bad idea altogether and especially so as workstations. If I were in the market for a workstation I wouldn't even glance at it.
I'm aware of that, however I was simply saying it's too bad they don't offer consumer options, because then it would compete somewhat with the iMac.

Aside from less expandability and upgradability, the only downside is, if something happens to the screen, or one part, you've got to send it in to get fixed. I'm experiencing that right now with my 2011 iMac, I've noticed a 0.5-1cm line on the left side of the screen, which is dark/gray, and is only visible on dark colours. It's not something on the screen, and it's not the background, as it appears over anything I put there but it won't show on pure white, only dark colours, like the OCN background colour.

I'll send it in when I'm ready. I'm awfully paranoid about my data, so it's a bit of a hassle for me, I'll have to make an image of my OS and burn it to an external drive, security erase it, send it in, and then clone it back on. Will have to install Windows 7 again. Bah.

I'm planning on waiting to see what the 2012 iMacs look like though, because I'll probably upgrade -- good timing to do so, anyway.
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I would have to say they might be trying to get away from the laptop docking system unless this is a different type of niche they are trying to sell to.
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2/16/12 at 2:29am
It open like a car hood, me gusta.
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