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Poll Results: Vote when your Achieva/Catleap monitor comes in.

 
  • 41% (232)
    Achieva QH270
  • 2% (12)
    Achieva QH270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 8% (46)
    Achieva QH270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
  • 40% (224)
    Catleap Q270
  • 1% (8)
    Catleap Q270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 5% (33)
    Catleap Q270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
555 Total Votes  
post #1141 of 4784
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Originally Posted by alricking View Post

Dude there's no difference between tempered glass and non-tempered glass..Same freaken design all around beside your glass is made of "tempered." There is no visually advantages over non-tempered glass. Same shzit. Furthermore, who would care if its made of tempered glass or not cuz if you worrying about someone throwing a rock on your monitor or punching it hard then yes "tempered" glass is for you smile.gif

Ah. What I thought was that the standard one came with that crappy plastic matte finish you get in most monitors where as I like the glossed (or in this case, glass) look and I thought you only got Glass if you bought the tempered glass model.

Considering it's not a touch screen and I don't have to worry about scratches, kinda feeling like that extra $25 is pointless now. tongue.gif
post #1142 of 4784
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Originally Posted by HyperMatrix View Post

Ah. What I thought was that the standard one came with that crappy plastic matte finish you get in most monitors where as I like the glossed (or in this case, glass) look and I thought you only got Glass if you bought the tempered glass model.
Considering it's not a touch screen and I don't have to worry about scratches, kinda feeling like that extra $25 is pointless now. tongue.gif

Tempered Glass models have more of a 'Mac' look to them, but offer another point of accidental dust/damage happening. Not worth it in my opinion.
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post #1143 of 4784
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Originally Posted by alricking View Post

Dude there's no difference between tempered glass and non-tempered glass..Same freaken design all around beside your glass is made of "tempered." There is no visually advantages over non-tempered glass. Same shzit. Furthermore, who would care if its made of tempered glass or not cuz if you worrying about someone throwing a rock on your monitor or punching it hard then yes "tempered" glass is for you smile.gif

I am not complete sure, but the tempered glass versions are the only versions that have flush screen correct? If so then...


I think the only real reason to go tempered glass is aesthetic. Flush glass screens "look" nicer. That holds on laptops like the macbooks, and it holds on pc notebooks like that new envy spectre

510


Does it make the screen higher quality? no

Does it make something look even slicker and nicer looking? yes, yes it does.

Is it worth the added risk of a chance at dust between the glass and panel layer? for many, no, but if someone did choose to go there, it is no different than choosing to add a sun/moon roof to a car, more complexity to the design, yet ANOTHER potential thing that might be broken or misaligned and just break down in the future, but there it is.
post #1144 of 4784
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Originally Posted by necriss View Post

Thanks for those color profiles ToastyX, I noticed the overly green thing while playing HON. Hope the following looks correct
bYaxo.jpg
If you want to use Windows's LUT loader, you need to enable "Use Windows display calibration" in the Advanced tab, which is grayed out in the initial screen. You have to click "Change system defaults..." and go to the Advanced tab in there to enable it. Then it will load the profile's gamma correction. That won't affect full screen games though, and I don't know what the best solution for that is yet.
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Originally Posted by stryker7314 View Post

Are all AMD cards limited to 85hz? I will get my catleap soon and will try it with a 7970. I will try with the dual link dvi and the displayport with an active dp to dual-link dvi adapter. Heres hoping it works since it has the ability to pull off 4096x2160. If anyone has anymore insight on this please let me know, also why is AMD limited by the ramdac if it's at 400mhz?
The limit is in the driver, not the hardware. Single-link DVI is 165 MHz, so I guess they assumed dual-link DVI is 330 MHz (2x165). Dual-link DVI can actually go beyond that, and this monitor seems to be able to handle it.

I didn't mention this, but PowerStrip can control the video card's RAMDAC directly, bypassing any driver restrictions, so I was able to test it there. I was able to get up to 101.865 Hz, but PowerStrip has no way of telling Windows or the video driver about the new refresh rate, which causes too many problems. Aero gets choppy, and Refresh Rate Multitool runs at the wrong rate. I was able to work around those problems by activating the multimedia timer resolution of 1 ms (which also happens if Flash happens to be running in a browser), but programs that query the refresh rate will still get the wrong value. Also, if anything tried to change the refresh rate, the video card blanked out and I had to reboot.

My program tells the driver which resolution to use, so there are no problems other than the driver ignoring pixel clocks beyond 330 MHz. It seems NVIDIA's control panel lets you bypass that limit without things getting confused.
post #1145 of 4784
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Originally Posted by ToastyX View Post

If you want to use Windows's LUT loader, you need to enable "Use Windows display calibration" in the Advanced tab, which is grayed out in the initial screen. You have to click "Change system defaults..." and go to the Advanced tab in there to enable it. Then it will load the profile's gamma correction. That won't affect full screen games though, and I don't know what the best solution for that is yet.
The limit is in the driver, not the hardware. Single-link DVI is 165 MHz, so I guess they assumed dual-link DVI is 330 MHz (2x165). Dual-link DVI can actually go beyond that, and this monitor seems to be able to handle it.
I didn't mention this, but PowerStrip can control the video card's RAMDAC directly, bypassing any driver restrictions, so I was able to test it there. I was able to get up to 101.865 Hz, but PowerStrip has no way of telling Windows or the video driver about the new refresh rate, which causes too many problems. Aero gets choppy, and Refresh Rate Multitool runs at the wrong rate. I was able to work around those problems by activating the multimedia timer resolution of 1 ms (which also happens if Flash happens to be running in a browser), but programs that query the refresh rate will still get the wrong value. Also, if anything tried to change the refresh rate, the video card blanked out and I had to reboot.
My program tells the driver which resolution to use, so there are no problems other than the driver ignoring pixel clocks beyond 330 MHz. It seems NVIDIA's control panel lets you bypass that limit without things getting confused.

Anyway the driver can be modded to accept higher pixel clocks? Is it gpu dependent or are all AMD cards limited by the driver? Kind of a bummer if not.
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post #1146 of 4784
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Originally Posted by ToastyX View Post

If you want to use Windows's LUT loader, you need to enable "Use Windows display calibration" in the Advanced tab, which is grayed out in the initial screen. You have to click "Change system defaults..." and go to the Advanced tab in there to enable it. Then it will load the profile's gamma correction.

Thanks got it working, using the native one as the other 2 look weird. Probably takes getting used to a different color temperature.
post #1147 of 4784
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Originally Posted by necriss View Post

Thanks got it working, using the native one as the other 2 look weird. Probably takes getting used to a different color temperature.
I just noticed the Eye-One's profile makes blues purplish in color-managed programs, so the DTP94 (D65) profile is probably the better one to use. The native one was also created using the DTP94, so that should be okay too.
post #1148 of 4784
Seconds away from pulling the trigger. Anyone want to comment on the square trade warranty ? Do people think its worth it ?
    
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post #1149 of 4784
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Ah. What I thought was that the standard one came with that crappy plastic matte finish you get in most monitors where as I like the glossed (or in this case, glass) look and I thought you only got Glass if you bought the tempered glass model.
Considering it's not a touch screen and I don't have to worry about scratches, kinda feeling like that extra $25 is pointless now. tongue.gif

Nah, both are glossy as seen in the OP's case.
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Originally Posted by Demented View Post

Tempered Glass models have more of a 'Mac' look to them, but offer another point of accidental dust/damage happening. Not worth it in my opinion.

Yeah it was risky, but seeing as I was the first to get the tempered glass model... i didn't know the risks then, but I got lucky as I can't really tell where the piece of dust is...
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Originally Posted by Sammael7 View Post

I am not complete sure, but the tempered glass versions are the only versions that have flush screen correct? If so then...
I think the only real reason to go tempered glass is aesthetic. Flush glass screens "look" nicer. That holds on laptops like the macbooks, and it holds on pc notebooks like that new envy spectre
Does it make the screen higher quality? no
Does it make something look even slicker and nicer looking? yes, yes it does.
Is it worth the added risk of a chance at dust between the glass and panel layer? for many, no, but if someone did choose to go there, it is no different than choosing to add a sun/moon roof to a car, more complexity to the design, yet ANOTHER potential thing that might be broken or misaligned and just break down in the future, but there it is.

True, but I think it looks so much sexier than my 25" TN panel next to it with a butt-ugly bezel. Do I regret it? Nope, not at all biggrin.gif (not that getting a 27" 1440p panel would result in any regret)
post #1150 of 4784
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Seconds away from pulling the trigger. Anyone want to comment on the square trade warranty ? Do people think its worth it ?

It won't apply. As much as people here want you to believe. Don't believe me? Ask squaretrade, or find out the hard way, when they simply refund you your $60 and you're stuck with a broken monitor
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