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Poll Results: Vote when your Achieva/Catleap monitor comes in.

 
  • 41% (232)
    Achieva QH270
  • 2% (12)
    Achieva QH270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 8% (46)
    Achieva QH270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
  • 40% (224)
    Catleap Q270
  • 1% (8)
    Catleap Q270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 5% (33)
    Catleap Q270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
555 Total Votes  
post #241 of 4784
Quote:
Originally Posted by windfire View Post

I can read a little Korean but not as good as someone's GF though.



 



600x294px-LL-bb419d7b_shimianmodels.jpeg



The last 2 entries are for Speakers and Glass.



 



Gmarket advertizes the Shimian QH270 Lite as a sub model of IPSBS (see my post #24) and so it is not exactly the IPSBS. The difference is it has the glass face same as the IPSB, I think. (Edit: bruce just confirms in the post above that the Lite does not have a glass screen)



 



Regarding the dead pixel, I can share a little of what is happening in the Chinese market. 2nd tier companies are selling equivalent monitors in China.  Not only the basic model is being sold, higher end models (with more inputs) are also being sold (with higher price, of course).  All these monitors are advertized to come with panels of 2 grading:- 'A+' and 'A' .



'A+' refers to perfect panel that guarantee zero dead/bright pixels.  'A' only has 3-pixel policy.  Exactly the same model with same panel but with 2 gradings. The price difference is about US$25 to $30.  The buyer makes the choice when ordering.



 



This info about 2 gradings is useful for reference because all these monitors (Shimian, Catleap, Crossover, all Chinese counterparts) use the same LG panel.  It could be Shimian and Catleap only build their monitors with A+ panel while the Chinese counterparts use both. (And kudos to the Chinese sellers because they make this clear and up front to the buyers so that the buyers have a choice of either panel.)   Or, Shimian and Catleap also use both gradings too.



 



So, I think if one gets a Shimian/Catleap and finds zero dead/bright pixel, he can celebrate.  If 1/2/3 bad pixels are found, then has to swallow them hard.  (My Korean is far from enough to look for this dead pixel policy in Shimian website.  Perhaps someone else can.)



Thanks for the input!
I'm not sure about the dead pixel thing either, but on the eBay page it says "Zero bright dot". Are they referring to no bad pixels or something else? Dead/stuck pixels aren't that big of a deal anyways. tongue.gif
post #242 of 4784
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Quote:
Originally Posted by windfire View Post

I can read a little Korean but not as good as someone's GF though.



 



600x294px-LL-bb419d7b_shimianmodels.jpeg



The last 2 entries are for Speakers and Glass.



 



Gmarket advertizes the Shimian QH270 Lite as a sub model of IPSBS (see my post #24) and so it is not exactly the IPSBS. The difference is it has the glass face same as the IPSB, I think. (Edit: bruce just confirms in the post above that the Lite does not have a glass screen)



 



Regarding the dead pixel, I can share a little of what is happening in the Chinese market. 2nd tier companies are selling equivalent monitors in China.  Not only the basic model is being sold, higher end models (with more inputs) are also being sold (with higher price, of course).  All these monitors are advertized to come with panels of 2 grading:- 'A+' and 'A' .



'A+' refers to perfect panel that guarantee zero dead/bright pixels.  'A' only has 3-pixel policy.  Exactly the same model with same panel but with 2 gradings. The price difference is about US$25 to $30.  The buyer makes the choice when ordering.



 



This info about 2 gradings is useful for reference because all these monitors (Shimian, Catleap, Crossover, all Chinese counterparts) use the same LG panel.  It could be Shimian and Catleap only build their monitors with A+ panel while the Chinese counterparts use both. (And kudos to the Chinese sellers because they make this clear and up front to the buyers so that the buyers have a choice of either panel.)   Or, Shimian and Catleap also use both gradings too.



 



So, I think if one gets a Shimian/Catleap and finds zero dead/bright pixel, he can celebrate.  If 1/2/3 bad pixels are found, then has to swallow them hard.  (My Korean is far from enough to look for this dead pixel policy in Shimian website.  Perhaps someone else can.)



Nope, no glass. I wonder why the lowest end model is the only one with glass.

As far as the dead pixel policies go, that's interesting. I can't read Korean, but as far as I can tell, nothing on Achieva's home page suggests a no dead pixel policy. I would only hope that they use A+ panels (which is very possible, as mine has no dead pixels), but since it isn't clear, we won't know until someone gets a bad monitor.
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post #243 of 4784
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I decided to put up a poll for everyone who ordered these monitors. Vote if yours comes in fine or DOA, as it'll help everyone assess the risk of buying one. If the Korean manufacturers use the same A+ / A monitor grades windfire said chinese vendors do, then this'll tells us whether Achieva and Catleap use A+ or A panels.

1st vote!
Edited by brucethemoose - 2/25/12 at 7:42pm
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So, this one from China says its 2560*1440 at 120HZ 0.o.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/521971363/FULL_HD_27_inch_LED_Monitor.html
what the panel 0.o
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This is a style of 27inch led monitor...beautiful, like a cute girl ; stable performance stuns the tough man.

Edited by jumpdownlow - 2/25/12 at 8:13pm
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post #245 of 4784
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So, this one from China says its 2560*1440 at 120HZ 0.o.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/521971363/FULL_HD_27_inch_LED_Monitor.html
what the panel 0.o

That's just shady. As far as I know, 2560x1440 at 120hz is impossible with DVI and Displayport.
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So, this one from China says its 2560*1440 at 120HZ 0.o.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/521971363/FULL_HD_27_inch_LED_Monitor.html
what the panel 0.o
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This is a style of 27inch led monitor...beautiful, like a cute girl ; stable performance stuns the tough man.

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post #247 of 4784
I would like to ask a question before making a purchase. Bruce, you said the stand is horrible, but is it tolerable?

The other thing I was wondering if 8 bit and 10 bit are very noticeable from each other? Or are they only noticeable to the eyes of a professional?

Thanks everyone for their input!
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Part of the description for that monitor on that page reads "This is a style of 27inch led monitor...beautiful, like a cute girl ; stable performance stuns the tough man." xD
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post #249 of 4784
glossy ips sure sounds sexy (some people manually remove the anti-glare coating as well)...i just don't have the ball for international orders nor removing ag coating myself. lol. looks like a good monitor. thumb.gif

now only if they made a glossy 120hz ips 16:10 ratio monitor....my world would be complete. im calling BS on the China monitor above. biggrin.gif
Edited by malikq86 - 2/25/12 at 11:35pm
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I'm set on buying one, but having a hard time deciding on which model. The glass looks nice but I don't want to sacrifice all the extra inputs. No 10 bit depth on the glass version too, it'll be another itch to scratch alongside the missing inputs.
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