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Poll Results: Vote when your Achieva/Catleap monitor comes in.

 
  • 41% (232)
    Achieva QH270
  • 2% (12)
    Achieva QH270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 8% (46)
    Achieva QH270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
  • 40% (224)
    Catleap Q270
  • 1% (8)
    Catleap Q270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 5% (33)
    Catleap Q270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
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post #281 of 4784
Bruce, does the stand stand pretty high? That is all I am worried about actually. I do not really adjust it, but I just want the middle of the screen to somewhat be near my eye level or something like that.

As for people arguing this with the Dell U2711 or even the U3011. It is all personal preference. Until we get more of the Shimian or Catleap... lets not compare any products! Only Shimian vs Catleap.

As for me, I would have gone for the Catleap, but I do not believe the height of the catleap is adjustable. It can only move in 360 degree circle from what I saw. That is why I chose the Shimian with the tampered glass. I rather prefer the tampered glass because I have no use for the speakers. And yes, the tampered glass doesn't mean "even more glossy". I believe it just means tougher glass. Both are very nice monitors though. Can someone tell me if the Catleap is height adjustable?

Maybe if we wanted to order more, we can ask the person who lives in South Korea. We can give them the money (and some extra for their effort). Order it for us, and then send us the product. That person can also check if the product is absolutely A+ Grade before shipping it to a foreign consumer.

Edit: If anything, I can just put a book below the stand, but hopefully the monitor won't tilt and drop...
Oh yeah, I hope Yamakasi or Achieva comes out with a similar monitor at 2560 x 1600 soon!
Edited by SherrytoN - 2/26/12 at 1:26pm
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post #282 of 4784
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Originally Posted by Kand View Post

I'd still pick the U2711, really. I like my AG coating.

Most people don't care for it, though wink.gif
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Originally Posted by jcde7ago View Post

I bought from the same listing that the OP did...before dreamseller mentioned that the "Lite" and "IPSB" are the same model (they aren't - dreamseller means that "Lite" and IPSBS are the same model). According to the official Achieva site though, there is also a separate IPSB model and that is the one that comes with tempered glass but no speakers.
If you look at the OP's pics....it clearly says "IPSBS" on the box, and there are also speakers on there. So, it does not come with tempered glass. It is not the IPSB model.
Two things here:
1) dreamseller is confused and doesn't know that there are two different models - the "Lite" one with speakers and no tempered glass (IPSBS), or the other model with tempered glass but no speakers (IPSB). Clearly, they are not the same, unless he sold OP an IPSBS but is now selling IPSB monitors with the tempered glass.
or
2) brucethemoose, the OP, has tempered glass on his IPSBS and just doesn't know it.
Most likely, it's 1 though.
Also, for those wondering...tempered glass does not give any visual advantages over non-tempered glass - at all. They will both be as clear/glossy - the tempered glass is just slightly less prone to breaking and will not crack into shards if you somehow punch your monitor, etc.
Regarding backlight bleed - it's not even guaranteed that everyone else who ordered one will get the bleed on the top like brucethemoose has. We have exactly one unit to go off of - not sure why any U2711 owner would jump in here and proclaim that he'd still have the U2711 over one of these. Backlight bleed gets less worse over time, and as bruce mentioned, it was exaggerrated by the pictures. I've owned IPS monitors with backlight bleeding, and honestly, during normal use, it is completely unnoticeable...and side by side, Dell's AG-coating is just terrible compared to comparable IPS screens without AG, in my opinion.
$405 shipped for an Achieva Shimian with NO AG-coating + a slight chance of EXTREMELY MINOR backlight bleed that is completely unnoticeable and not even guaranteed to be on every unit is a much better deal, again, imo, than shelling out $950-1000 for a U2711 after taxes. There really is no competition, unless a warranty is worth $500+ dollars to some of you - in which case, just buy another one of these for crying out loud.

IMO you left out an option - "dreamseller" is now selling the IPSB instead of the IPSBS because it is cheaper overall. The IPSBS is on average $20 more expensive than the IPSB on gmarket so I'm going to assume he wouldn't make as much money if that's all he was selling. By switching over to the IPSB he can turn a higher profit but charge the same price for each display.

We won't know until people start getting their LCD's, though.
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I want one of these bad.......trade me for my three 21.5in monitors?
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Bruce, does the stand stand pretty high? That is all I am worried about actually. I do not really adjust it, but I just want the middle of the screen to somewhat be near my eye level or something like that.

As for people arguing this with the Dell U2711 or even the U3011. It is all personal preference. Until we get more of the Shimian or Catleap... lets not compare any products! Only Shimian vs Catleap.

As for me, I would have gone for the Catleap, but I do not believe the height of the catleap is adjustable. It can only move in 360 degree circle from what I saw. That is why I chose the Shimian with the tampered glass. I rather prefer the tampered glass because I have no use for the speakers. And yes, the tampered glass doesn't mean "even more glossy". I believe it just means tougher glass. Both are very nice monitors though. Can someone tell me if the Catleap is height adjustable?

Maybe if we wanted to order more, we can ask the person who lives in South Korea. We can give them the money (and some extra for their effort). Order it for us, and then send us the product. That person can also check if the product is absolutely A+ Grade before shipping it to a foreign consumer.

Edit: If anything, I can just put a book below the stand, but hopefully the monitor won't tilt and drop...
Oh yeah, I hope Yamakasi or Achieva comes out with a similar monitor at 2560 x 1600 soon!

It's 3 inches off the ground, something like 4 finger widths if you don't have a ruler, and the bezel on the bottom is about an inch and a half.

And I'm hoping there's someone who knows about mail forwarding in Korea. For all we know, they may have cheap 2560x1600 monitors too.
Edited by brucethemoose - 2/26/12 at 2:02pm
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It's 3 inches off the ground, something like 4 finger widths if you don't have a ruler, and the bezel on the bottom is about an inch and a half.
And I'm hoping there's someone who knows about mail forwarding in Korea. For all we know, they may have cheap 2560x1600 monitors too.

Not exactly "cheap", but there are some 30" 2560x1600 Shimians on gmarket for around $700.

http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=235600885&pos_shop_cd=EN&pos_class_cd=90000001&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_order=shimian

http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=227248768&pos_shop_cd=EN&pos_class_cd=90000001&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_order=shimian

From the specs on those, they seem to be 10-bit, have a lot of inputs (DVI, 2x HDMI, component, VGA), and are wide gamut (specs say 102%, I assume that means 102% of NTSC color space?).
post #287 of 4784
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IMO you left out an option - "dreamseller" is now selling the IPSB instead of the IPSBS because it is cheaper overall. The IPSBS is on average $20 more expensive than the IPSB on gmarket so I'm going to assume he wouldn't make as much money if that's all he was selling. By switching over to the IPSB he can turn a higher profit but charge the same price for each display.
We won't know until people start getting their LCD's, though.

I didn't leave that out - dreamseller had always been selling the "Lite" version of the QH270, which at this point, based on what bruchethemoose got, was the IPSBS, per his pictures. So if dreamseller did switch it - he/she did so without specifying, and no one could really know since on his eBay listing, it makes not mention of model, just that it's the QH270 "Lite." So yes, it could be the IPSBS that bruce received, or it could indeed be the IPSB now, or dreamseller may be confused and thinks that there is no difference between IPSBS and IPSB. I ordered the day the OP actually received his...so i am hoping i get it by the end of this week, and i will post pics of what model I receive. Honestly, either way is fine - tempered glass without speakers or speakers without tempered glass - both win/win, especially since the tempered glass, again, offers no additional visual benefit other than being tougher glass.
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It's 3 inches off the ground, something like 4 finger widths if you don't have a ruler, and the bezel on the bottom is about an inch and a half.
And I'm hoping there's someone who knows about mail forwarding in Korea. For all we know, they may have cheap 2560x1600 monitors too.

Sweet! The reason i bought the Shimian and not the Catleap was because the Catleap has a fixed stand (no vesa mount) that to me, was too high off the ground...my current VW266H is about 3 inches off the ground as well, so the Shimian sounds like it'll be a perfect fit in comparison to how my current monitor sits off the ground/desk. thumb.gif
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Sorry to ask twice but which is the best?
Well, I'm assuming 10 bit is better. But no-one on eBay sells that.

I'm glad to hear backlight bleed becomes less severe over time.

Also, someone voted. Did I miss someone, or did someone else's monitor get here? [/quote]

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Well, I'm assuming 10 bit is better. But no-one on eBay sells that.
I'm glad to hear backlight bleed becomes less severe over time.
Also, someone voted. Did I miss someone, or did someone else's monitor get here?
Thanks!


Not that I know of. Is there any way to tell who voted?
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Just so you guys know I'll be pulling the trigger on the tempered glass Shimian monitor today. Hopefully it'll be here by next week although the seller stated the shipping will take anywhere from 11-20 business days frown.gif
OP, how long did it take for your monitor to arrive?
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