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Poll Results: Vote when your Achieva/Catleap monitor comes in.

 
  • 41% (232)
    Achieva QH270
  • 2% (12)
    Achieva QH270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 8% (46)
    Achieva QH270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
  • 40% (224)
    Catleap Q270
  • 1% (8)
    Catleap Q270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 5% (33)
    Catleap Q270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
555 Total Votes  
post #621 of 4784
If hes using his custom profile when he took those pics wouldnt that make it look different? (from bruces default one I mean)

Not sure if he even was but seems worth asking :/
post #622 of 4784
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If hes using his custom profile when he took those pics wouldnt that make it look different? (from bruces default one I mean)
Not sure if he even was but seems worth asking :/

From what I understand, the EDID is something taken from the monitor itself. It's what the monitor's driver basically is, and can't be set unless you hack it via that tutorial, I think.

Any experts care to chime in?
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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

From what I understand, the EDID is something taken from the monitor itself. It's what the monitor's driver basically is, and can't be set unless you hack it via that tutorial, I think.
Any experts care to chime in?

That's what I gathered from the link you posted above. You may have to change the EDID in the application to match what shows on his to force higher refresh rates, otherwise the display will not accept/display the refresh rates whether they're possible or not. Or at least that's how I'm understanding it...
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That's what I gathered from the link you posted above. You may have to change the EDID in the application to match what shows on his to force higher refresh rates, otherwise the display will not accept/display the refresh rates whether they're possible or not. Or at least that's how I'm understanding it...

That's what I gathered too. The problem is that the EDID is there for a reason... telling the monitor it can accept that kind of refresh rate doesn't mean it'll happily do it.

I'll try bumping up the hz soon, but I'm gonna start with 62, then work my way up from there. Wish I had an Nvidia card.
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post #625 of 4784
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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

That's what I gathered too. The problem is that the EDID is there for a reason... telling the monitor it can accept that kind of refresh rate doesn't mean it'll happily do it.
I'll try bumping up the hz soon, but I'm gonna start with 62, then work my way up from there. Wish I had an Nvidia card.

To be honest I've never quite heard of anyone actually damaging their displays but I suppose anything is possible. I know that a custom inf file for the NEC EA231WMI was created to bypass the EDID and force up to 83hz over displayport (due to the bandwidth limitations of single-link DVI), so something like this isn't entirely unheard of.
post #626 of 4784
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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

Makes sense. I'm new to this whole monitor overclocking thing.
Has anyone done this on an ATI card?
I have experience testing higher refresh rates, and I plan to test higher refresh rates when I get mine, so I'll be able to verify if it works.

I also made a utility that allows AMD/ATI users to create custom resolutions: http://www.toastyx.net/cru-preview.zip

It's still a work in progress, but it's mostly functional. It works by creating EDID overrides directly in the registry without having to deal with creating .inf files. (Windows XP does not support EDID overrides, so Vista or later is required.) This program will also work for NVIDIA users, but NVIDIA's driver will sometimes ignore a resolution for no obvious reason.

I'll let you know what settings work on my ATI 5670 when I get the monitor.

I'll just copy the release notes that I posted here: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038342324&postcount=6
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It's a portable program. No installation required. When starting the program, a UAC prompt will appear because it needs permission to write to the registry.

The first active display is loaded when the program starts. If other monitors are present in the registry, the drop-down list can be used to select another monitor. Note that there may be inactive or outdated monitors in the list. You can use the Delete button to mark them for removal. Monitors marked with an asterisk (*) have changes saved.

The first detailed resolution is considered the native or preferred resolution. If you want to play around with higher refresh rates, add a detailed resolution. Note that the pixel clock must stay under 165 MHz for the resolution to work with single-link DVI.

Lower resolutions can usually be defined as standard resolutions. Do not define the native resolution as a standard resolution. You can safely remove any resolutions that you don't need.

The extension block often contains other information like HDTV resolutions and audio capabilities. Do not enable this option if it was not originally enabled. This program doesn't provide a way to edit the extension block since the data is not stored in the registry.

After clicking OK, Windows must be restarted for the changes to take effect. To remove the changes, use the Delete button next to the monitor drop-down list to mark the monitor for removal, then click OK and reboot.

Release notes:
* The monitor name will be lost after changes take effect (but will be restored if the changes are removed)
* The Import/Export buttons are not implemented yet
* The timing drop-down list in the Detailed dialog is not implemented yet
* The interlaced checkbox sets the interlaced bit but does not adjust the values
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I'm not really sure, they both definitely use the same panel... I know some ATI users had a lot of issues pushing their 2209wa's to 75hz whereas nvidia users seemed to have no trouble...
It's actually the opposite. Several NVIDIA users had trouble with the driver ignoring the resolution for no obvious reason. The only reason ATI users had trouble is because there was no utility to add custom resolutions other than PowerStrip, which isn't free.
post #627 of 4784
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Originally Posted by ToastyX View Post

I have experience testing higher refresh rates, and I plan to test higher refresh rates when I get mine, so I'll be able to verify if it works.
I also made a utility that allows AMD/ATI users to create custom resolutions: http://www.toastyx.net/cru-preview.zip
It's still a work in progress, but it's mostly functional. It works by creating EDID overrides directly in the registry without having to deal with creating .inf files. (Windows XP does not support EDID overrides, so Vista or later is required.) This program will also work for NVIDIA users, but NVIDIA's driver will sometimes ignore a resolution for no obvious reason.
I'll let you know what settings work on my ATI 5670 when I get the monitor.
I'll just copy the release notes that I posted here: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038342324&postcount=6
It's actually the opposite. Several NVIDIA users had trouble with the driver ignoring the resolution for no obvious reason. The only reason ATI users had trouble is because there was no utility to add custom resolutions other than PowerStrip, which isn't free.

Haha I actually just forced my s24a850dw to 64hz with this. Thanks smile.gif
post #628 of 4784
So what is the outcome? Has anyone purchased one of these, are they any good?

Would be nice if they came with display port inputs.
post #629 of 4784
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Originally Posted by L D4WG View Post

So what is the outcome? Has anyone purchased one of these, are they any good?
Would be nice if they came with display port inputs.

Really? Did you not read the OP or scroll down to where the OP has the pictures?

Or notice the poll that shows 12 people have recieved theirs?

In short:

Get the Catleap or the Shimian IPSBS (not the IPSB from the seller dcsamsungmall as few have come with dust under panel etc.) The jury is still out on whether or not you should buy the IPSB from dream seller as no one has recieved one from him yet.
post #630 of 4784
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Originally Posted by AchuSaysBlessYou View Post

Really? Did you not read the OP or scroll down to where the OP has the pictures?
Or notice the poll that shows 12 people have recieved theirs?
In short:
Get the Catleap or the Shimian IPSBS (not the IPSB from the seller dcsamsungmall as few have come with dust under panel etc.) The jury is still out on whether or not you should buy the IPSB from dream seller as no one has recieved one from him yet.

Its a long OP.

And I did read it while I was waiting for a reply.

Which model have the Display Port? The OP says high end models, is that the Shimian IPSBS? Can some link me to where to buy it from?
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