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Poll Results: Vote when your Achieva/Catleap monitor comes in.

 
  • 41% (232)
    Achieva QH270
  • 2% (12)
    Achieva QH270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 8% (46)
    Achieva QH270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
  • 40% (224)
    Catleap Q270
  • 1% (8)
    Catleap Q270 (DOA / didn't recieve)
  • 5% (33)
    Catleap Q270 (Dead pixel(s) / flawed panel)
555 Total Votes  
post #791 of 4784
Quote:
Originally Posted by renkenkyo View Post

Got my Achieva today, in complete bubble wrap! Everything looks in great condition thumb.gif. There is a microscopic piece of dust in the lower right corner that I didn't even noticed until I did a series of dead pixel tests and backlight bleed tests

One thing to note is that the box was definitely opened before at some point because there was a folded box of samsung 3D glasses in the box as someone else mentioned eh-smiley.gif.

At his site, he is also selling 3D glasses. Due to the high number of defects with the Tempered Glass model, do you suspect he may be opening all of them to check for defects BEFORE shipping them out? That would be superb!
post #792 of 4784
Quote:
Originally Posted by BiNiaRiS View Post

Your math is flawed. 2 Catleaps have flaws 4 don't. So it's 2/6 not 2/4. So it's 33%.
And for the Shimians the math would be 3/14 = flaw rate, not 3/11. So it's 21.5%. For sure not enough of either monitor to get a good understanding yet though.
I'd like to hear the 2 people that have the screen flaws with their catleaps though. Is it one or two dead pixels or something really severe?

The Shimians are actually in 2 separate categories

Someone correct me if this is wrong

Shimian without the Tempered Glass, 11/11 Perfect or near perfect

Shimian with Tempered Glass 3/3 Flawed
post #793 of 4784
Quote:
Originally Posted by qhduong92 View Post

I've been reading the last 30 pages of the thread but still can't find a definite answer. Which is better to get? The Shimian or Catleap? Also... what is tempered glass? Thanks! I'm considering ordering the Catleap for 399.
I'm sitting on the fence. Initially, I wanted the Catleap, but uncertain now.
Catleap
Pros
100Hz is possible
buttons at the front

Cons
5.5 inches from desk to bottom of screen is a bit too high
High Defect rate
Monitor Leans to the right


Achieva
Pros
4.5 inches from desk to the bottom of the screen is near perfect
5W speakers
Every monitor without the Tempered Glass is near perfect
30 increments for brightness control

Cons
buttons at the rear
might be limited to 70Hz?

Unless you really want the Tempered Glass badly, it offers no advantages over the regular Shimian because they are all glossy. The Hazro Tempered Glass version also suffered from having dust particles under the glass.
post #794 of 4784
Quote:
Originally Posted by ughnook View Post

The Shimians are actually in 2 separate categories
Someone correct me if this is wrong
Shimian without the Tempered Glass, 11/11 Perfect or near perfect
Shimian with Tempered Glass 3/3 Flawed

Correct.

Shimian IPSBS model (without tempered glass, but with speakers) = 11/11 no flaws.
Shimian IPSB model (without speakers, but with tempered glass) = 3/3 flawed.

And to the other poster, as for what's better? They're both good.....they are both really similar, except a couple people have pushed their Catleaps to 85 and 97hz, since it looks like these monitors never got set with a max pixel clock rate in their EDID. No one knows whether it's a good thing that they can be pushed so far past the native 60hz, or how well the monitors will hold up in gaming, or for a prolonged period of time etc...just after some tests, a couple people have confirmed the Catleap can do 80+hz. The OPs Shimian can go to 70hz, and mine as well (he used a util. for ATI cards to set the custom refresh rate and I used Nvidia control panel for mine). At this point, I don't see the refresh rate overclocking as being any sort of advantage since we just don't know how forcing a higher rate is going to affect these IPS panels, since the same LG panels are found in Dell U2711s/Mac cinema displays and as far as i know they are confined to 60hz for a reason.

They both use the same panel, both have VESA mounts, and just about the only thing different is that the base Achieva model (IPSBS) has speakers and a lower stand and the Catleap base model (Q270) does not have speakers and has a higher stand.

In terms of reliability...the base model IPSBS Shimians are flawless thus far for everyone that got one, while a third or so of the Catleaps have been flawed.
Edited by jcde7ago - 3/3/12 at 2:19am
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post #795 of 4784
I ended up buying the Catleap Q270 on the 3/1/12 (just before the price drop from $413.90 to $399) I'll post up my results after I get it in the mail.
post #796 of 4784
Also very tempted to get the Catleap.. I use a '27 iMac at work, and the screen really is gorgeous.. I'd love to have something similar at home smile.gif

As I hate dead pixels, I sent the guy a message asking if he would be able to check it for defects before he sends it to me, for a little extra. Would be great if he actually would, but if not I think I'll still just take the shot anyways, and just hope for the best.
Downside is that I will probably need a new desk to fit it properly. And perhaps a new video card. And a new processor to keep up with it.. And.. Well, basically a new computer if it comes to that redface.gif
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post #797 of 4784
The "SE" sounds like a marketing term. Should be the same.

Confirming the 100hz with windows

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post #798 of 4784
Thank you bruce for this fantastic thread and massive thanks to all that have contributed to this thread, just one question, has anyone from the UK ordered one, if so has it arrived yet etc? This is so so tempting.... 100hz on the catleap at 1440 is amazing. Three of those would set me right for surround lol
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post #799 of 4784
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ughnook View Post

At his site, he is also selling 3D glasses. Due to the high number of defects with the Tempered Glass model, do you suspect he may be opening all of them to check for defects BEFORE shipping them out? That would be superb!

That's a possibility, we should ask him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ughnook View Post

I'm sitting on the fence. Initially, I wanted the Catleap, but uncertain now.
Catleap
Pros
100Hz is possible
buttons at the front
Cons
5.5 inches from desk to bottom of screen is a bit too high
High Defect rate
Monitor Leans to the right
Achieva
Pros
4.5 inches from desk to the bottom of the screen is near perfect
5W speakers
Every monitor without the Tempered Glass is near perfect
30 increments for brightness control
Cons
buttons at the rear
might be limited to 70Hz?
Unless you really want the Tempered Glass badly, it offers no advantages over the regular Shimian because they are all glossy. The Hazro Tempered Glass version also suffered from having dust particles under the glass.

That pretty much sums up the difference between the two. I'll quote that if anyone asks.
Edited by brucethemoose - 3/3/12 at 8:19am
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post #800 of 4784
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Thank you bruce for this fantastic thread and massive thanks to all that have contributed to this thread, just one question, has anyone from the UK ordered one, if so has it arrived yet etc? This is so so tempting.... 100hz on the catleap at 1440 is amazing. Three of those would set me right for surround lol

I ordered from Belgium on Friday last week and it didn't arrive yet. It seems that people who ordered from US received it in 3-5 days.
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