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What's the advantage of having tempered glass on a monitor?
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What's the advantage of having tempered glass on a monitor?

nothing imo i mean i suppose if it gets hit with a high velocity object it has a higher chance of surviving
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I'm about to order that one..hmm can't hold myself back anymore lol. I need to find a buyer for my HannsG 27" first before i order that one tho, gonna put it on local CL right this moment!
 

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That $375 Catleap Q270 SE has the "Best Offer" feature enabled.
I wonder what the lowest best offer is he's willing to accept.
My gut tells me $365, but $360 is a remote possibility as well.


 

 

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so i suppose im confused a bit, ive read through the majority of the posts here and over at {-}ardforums and these monitors looks great albeit the catleap might jump out at me more lower problems it seems and non tempered glass.
I really want to buy this however the biggest thing holding my back is the unavailible OSD controls?
im coming from a 24in hp lp2475, and it had quite a bit of control as far as brightness, contrast, color temp 6500k & 9300k. From reading all these posts i believe the only thing you can control on these monitors is the brightness correct? if so do we know what the native color temp is? and how might this effect our ability to customize our own color presets.
I know this is a good deal regardless i just want to weigh my options! thanks guys!
Also im confused ive heard of people getting non tempered glass Achieva's. Are these just rare? i think my biggest thing with Achievas are the dust between the glass.

19 Achieva Shimians in total according to the poll; 15/16 are flawless and are the non-tempered-glass IPSBS standard model. The other 3/3 were flawed and are the IPSB model with the tempered glass.

So, out of 19 Shimians, 1 non-tempered glass model so far is flawed, and 3 out of 3 tempered glass versions are flawed. The Hazro (UK version of the tempered glass Shimian) is also known to be prone to having dust under the glass.
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nothing imo i mean i suppose if it gets hit with a high velocity object it has a higher chance of surviving

Correct. There are no advantages to having tempered glass vs not, unless you plan on throwing things/punching your monitor - in which case, the tempered glass version will undoubtedly be more likely to survive the impact.
Edited by jcde7ago - 3/4/12 at 1:48pm
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60k views and over 1000 posts. Dear god, this thread is getting hard to keep up with.
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Originally Posted by bhk1004 View Post

Well i actually was talking about why 1 program could only take me up to 81hz and the other could take me up to 97hz.
yah and my video cards with vsync off even at this resolution are usually way over 100.

Remember, the program in the first post doesn't like Nvidia video cards. It's mainly for ATI/AMD users, Nvidia users are better off using the NV Control Panel.
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2560x1440 video
Thought some people were like me and might want to see a video at 2560x1440 the link above is the only one ive found that seems legit for like the past few hours.
right click, Save as, and download it. its around a 500meg file. looks pretty good.
also wanted to add, for some reason I have problems playing this video, its pretty laggy for some reason unless I play it in VLC player. so might wanna do that as well.

Gorgeous, think I may put that in the 1st post
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We have 20+ Achieva Shimian owners and only like...2-3 of us have tried "overclocking" our refresh rates so far? With the Catleap and Shimian using the EXACT same panel...we really need to do more digging as to why Shimians can't hit 80-100hz *yet*...we're talking, try out different brands of dual-link DVI cables, timings, etc...there's gotta be something we're overlooking, as it just doesn't make sense why the Catleap can have a higher refresh rate but some Shimian's can't even break 70hz.
I can confirm that my Shimian can do 70hz easily (BF3 after 1 hour worked perfectly) and the max seems to be 74hz, any higher and it will just show a black screen.
Also, still unsure at this point if running these IPS monitors past native 60hz for a prolonged period of time has any negative effect at all...i could notice only a marginal difference between 74hz on my Shimian vs 60hz...and honestly, I prefer absolutely NO SCREEN TEARING, so i just stick with 60hz + VSYNC on anyways. But, i am willing to bet that it's just a matter of time before this MONSTER, "Korean IPS Monitor Ultra-Spectacular-Savings-Value-Club" finds out exactly what the difference is... thumb.gif
And folks, make sure you're giving brucethemoose his due...he deserves a TON of credit for all of this that may have never materialized for all we know...these monitors are looking to be one of the hottest items for 2012...with prices dropping to a RIDONKULOUS $369 shipped for a 2560x1440 IPS monitor using the same panel as the Apple Cinema Display/U2711....it's just unbelievable. I really hope this thread gets exposed more and that the overall market for these high-end monitors are impacted as a whole...I mean, just look at what kind of impact we're having on the eBay landscape...we had just dreamseller selling these a week ago, and now there are like 5 sellers, all competing and price dropping like crazy every day... tongue.gif

What's even weirder is the fact that mine only does 70hz, and someone else's only did 65 or so. If the hz bottleneck was a chip in the monitor, I would expect all the Achieva's to be limited in the same way. But it's variable. I have a hunch the Catleap DVI cable is better (thicker wiring/shielding/etc) than the Achieva's. Could someone with a Catleap buy a really long\cheap dual link DVI cable and see what happens?

My monitor also has a VERY, very faint buzz, and it gets slightly louder and higher pitch when I run it at 70hz. The OCD side of me doesn't like that.

And ya, the snowball is rolling now. I feel so special biggrin.gif


The Lite is the IPSBS model (speakers/no glass), the other is the IPSB model with glass.
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19 Achieva Shimians in total according to the poll; 15/16 are flawless and are the non-tempered-glass IPSBS standard model. The other 3/3 were flawed and are the IPSB model with the tempered glass.
So, out of 19 Shimians, 1 non-tempered glass model so far is flawed, and 3 out of 3 tempered glass versions are flawed. The Hazro (UK version of the tempered glass Shimian) is also known to be prone to having dust under the glass.
Correct. There are no advantages to having tempered glass vs not, unless you plan on throwing things/punching your monitor - in which case, the tempered glass version will undoubtedly be more likely to survive the impact.

ok so that narrows down to either get:

the non tempered IPSBS Achieva

or the

Cat hmmm i suppose i dont see why the cat isnt superior to the Achieva

and does any one have a better idea about the on screen controls than me im still a little lost on that.
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60k views and over 1000 posts. Dear god, this thread is getting hard to keep up with.
Remember, the program in the first post doesn't like Nvidia video cards. It's mainly for ATI/AMD users, Nvidia users are better off using the NV Control Panel.
Gorgeous, think I may put that in the 1st post
What's even weirder is the fact that mine only does 70hz, and someone else's only did 65 or so. If the hz bottleneck was a chip in the monitor, I would expect all the Achieva's to be limited in the same way. But it's variable. I have a hunch the Catleap DVI cable is better (thicker wiring/shielding/etc) than the Achieva's. Could someone with a Catleap buy a really long\cheap dual link DVI cable and see what happens?
My monitor also has a VERY, very faint buzz, and it gets slightly louder and higher pitch when I run it at 70hz. The OCD side of me doesn't like that.
And ya, the snowball is rolling now. I feel so special biggrin.gif
The Lite is the IPSBS model (speakers/no glass), the other is the IPSB model with glass.

Yeah mines is the one that can only go up to 65. I tried 67 last night... I got an entire black screen and then a blue line at the top of the monitor that went down the screen... scared the **** out of me... looked like a broken pixel that started leaking...
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ok so that narrows down to either get:
the non tempered IPSBS Achieva
or the
Cat hmmm i suppose i dont see why the cat isnt superior to the Achieva
and does any one have a better idea about the on screen controls than me im still a little lost on that.

In short: there is none.

There is a power button, and brightness up and down buttons and volume up and down button, but no OSD. (Interestingly the volume up and down buttons work on my monitor as each time i press the power light blinks red, even though i dont have speakers... although i'm 100% sure it's a cost cutting measure as I even have speaker grills, but no speakers)
Edited by AchuSaysBlessYou - 3/4/12 at 2:04pm
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Yeah mines is the one that can only go up to 65. I tried 67 last night... I got an entire black screen and then a blue line at the top of the monitor that went down the screen... scared the **** out of me... looked like a broken pixel that started leaking...
In short: there is none.
There is a power button, and brightness up and down buttons and volume up and down button, but no OSD. (Interestingly the volume up and down buttons work on my monitor as each time i press the power light blinks red, even though i dont have speakers... although i'm 100% sure it's a cost cutting measure as I even have speaker grills, but no speakers)

ok thanks for the awnser from what i can tell from all the pics and screens you guys are showing the monitor looks great out of the box.

so what would make some one choose the achieva over the catleap, to me it would be the other way around since the catleap has more chance for refresh rate if both panels are identical besides the referesh rate.
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"Also am not going to be home when it arrives to reject it since i am school all day every weekday. Canceled it on the 27th and got refund the same day, he shipped it on the 29th. Shows that it was accepted through seoul as of the 29th"
>>Just leave sign on you door saying UPS MAN Tracking #:##### REFUSE TO ACCEPT
Edited by Panzer22 - 3/4/12 at 11:55pm
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ok thanks for the awnser from what i can tell from all the pics and screens you guys are showing the monitor looks great out of the box.
so what would make some one choose the achieva over the catleap, to me it would be the other way around since the catleap has more chance for refresh rate if both panels are identical besides the referesh rate.

With the Shimian, you have a chance between 65-75hz. The Catleap, at least 2 or 3 seen on here, can go from 80-100hz. No one has tested long term stability, any negative effects, etc. or really, any intensive or inclusive tests, other than proving that they can indeed support that high of a refresh rate. We'd need to really examine if frames are getting dropped past 60, any visual artifacts or messed up scanlines, etc. And no one has tried a Shimian with a different/similar DVI cable as the Catleap one, so thus far, ~75hz is the Shimian refresh rate peak at the moment.

Other than that, the Shimian's stand is a little bit shorter (I found the Catleap's stand too high personally) and it comes with speakers. They are otherwise completely identical aside from the potentially higher refresh rate with the Catleap...and remember, 75-100hz on a 2560x1440p monitor is nice...but unless you're going SLI/Tri-SLI/CF with 2-3GB of VRAM...no way are you going to hit a good framerate at this res, let alone using VSYNC to prevent tearing...2560x1440 is no joke of a resolution to be able to drive high-demanding games like BF3 without some decent accompanying hardware. I ran my Shimian to 74hz in BF3 and it honestly was not much different at all...so I stuck with native 60hz + vsync on anyways for a more consistent and fluid 60FPS framerate. thumb.gif
Edited by jcde7ago - 3/4/12 at 2:20pm
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