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In an attempt to ensure maximum performance of its forthcoming mainstream desktop accelerated processing units (APUs), Advanced Micro Devices plans to dramatically boost clock-speeds of its code-named Trinity chips. Thanks to frequencies that are up to 800MHz higher compared to Llano APUs available now, Trinity will likely offer significantly better performance.

According to a slide, which resembles those from Advanced Micro Devices' documents, published by DonanimHaber web-site, base clock-speeds of A-series "Trinity" APUs for desktops will start at 3.20GHz and will span to 3.80GHz. Boosted Turbo Core clock-speeds of desktops accelerated processing units will be up to 4.20GHz. Frequencies of integrated graphics processing units will also be considerably higher compared to Llano and therefore will also be faster.

AMD’s second-generation code-named Trinity APU for mainstream personal computers (Comal for notebooks and Virgo for desktops) will be made using 32nm SOI HKMG process technology at Globalfoundries. The APU will feature up to four x86 cores powered by enhanced Bulldozer/Piledriver architecture, AMD Radeon HD 7000-series "Southern Islands" graphics core with DirectX 11-class graphics support, DDR3 memory controller and other improvements. The chips will be compatible with new infrastructure.

According to performance benchmarks conducted by AMD, the Trinity 35W APU with Piledriver-class x86 cores will provide 25% better x86 performance compared to Llano 35W (with K10.5+ "Husky" x86 cores) based on results obtained in PC Mark Vantage Productivity benchmark. AMD also claims that Trinity 35W will offer up to 50% better result in 3D Mark Vantage performance benchmark compared to Llano 35W.

According to documents seen by X-bit labs, staring from early and middle March, 2012, AMD intends to mass produce its desktop A-series "Trinity" accelerated processing units with 65W thermal design power (TDP). In early May, 2012, the chip designer wants to initiate mass production of desktop A-series "Trinity" APUs with 100W TDP and higher performance. The Sunnyvale, California-based chip designer plans to release Trinity in mid-2012.

Source - xbitlabs.com


I can't wait to get me a A10.... Soon enough, soon enough

It surprised me to see that the only ones that have 100 watt TDP are the unlocked versions. A A10-3700 Trinity quad core at 3.4Ghz with 4.0Ghz turbo with only 65 watt TDP is pretty damn good. The unlocked versions may be able to be overclocked very high. Cant wait to see the reviews on these chips.

Another thing that surprised me is that there are less shaders than the first gen APUs which looks like Trinity's GPU may be GCN architecture. There has been many different rumors on what kind of architecture Trinity is using for her GPU but no one seems to have proof or confirmation on this. Guess we'll just have to wait and see at release.

Soon enough, soon enough....
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I can't wait to get me a A10.... Soon enough, soon enough

You need a new MB, Socket FM1 is not compatible with Trinity (FM2). Did you get 6670 to hybrid crossfire?
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You need a new MB, Socket FM1 is not compatible with Trinity (FM2). Did you get 6670 to hybrid crossfire?

Yes I know Trinity is FM2 and will be getting ASUS board as soon as the unlocked versions come out. No I do not have hybrid crossfire setup cause I am waiting to see what Trinity is able to pair with...
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Can someone explain to me, if anyone knows, why these APUs don't have L3?
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Can someone explain to me, if anyone knows, why these APUs don't have L3?

L3 takes wayyy too much die space for unsignificant performance increase. You need this die space for more Radeon cores in an APU.

Another reason for the Bulldozer type array. 4 PileDriver cores(2 modules) siginifcantly reduces space vs 4 Stars cores, thus allowing that many more Radeon cores.
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L3 takes wayyy too much die space for unsignificant performance increase. You need this die space for more Radeon cores in an APU.
Another reason for the Bulldozer type array. 4 PileDriver cores(2 modules) siginifcantly reduces space vs 4 Stars cores, thus allowing that many more Radeon cores.

Makes sense, but is there any information explaining the performance difference between having L3 versus not having it?
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Makes sense, but is there any information explaining the performance difference between having L3 versus not having it?

Go look @ Stars vs Phenom 2 clock for clock.
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Go look @ Stars vs Phenom 2 clock for clock.

Rog, Thanks! I'll post my findings, +rep.
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L3 takes wayyy too much die space for unsignificant performance increase. You need this die space for more Radeon cores in an APU.
Another reason for the Bulldozer type array. 4 PileDriver cores(2 modules) siginifcantly reduces space vs 4 Stars cores, thus allowing that many more Radeon cores.

Makes sense, but is there any information explaining the performance difference between having L3 versus not having it?

I had a Phenom II x4 840 with no L3 cache and there wasn't a significant loss in computing power due to this, as seen through benchmarks vs 955 etc. I had my 840 clocked to 4.309ghz as well for 24/7 and most phenoms cant reach past 4.1/4.2 even under water. I know its not a huge difference in overclockability most likely margin of error but maybe pile driver cores with no L3 will be able to overclock beyond the 5ghz range?

Mike, you sold your bulldozer rig? How is that 3870k holding up for you and what do you have it overclocked to, cpu and igpu?
    
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I know its not a huge difference in overclockability most likely margin of error but maybe pile driver cores with no L3 will be able to overclock beyond the 5ghz range?


I'm all for optimism but nope.
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