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I put this together for a friend and I just want some of your guy's input on it. He will be doing some light gaming, and everyday stuff which is why I figured and APU would be perfect for him.
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Looks pretty solid to me. You should be able to find a much cheaper hard drive though.
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Looks pretty solid to me. You should be able to find a much cheaper hard drive though.

Hard drive prices are crazy right now. He wants at least 250GB for now and that was the cheapest I found on newegg. I saw some for less on ebay but I don't always trust buying PC components on there.
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I'd change everything except the A8-3850, unless you can find a nice deal on an A8-3870K. Antec makes some good PSUs but I've never heard of the one you selected. The Antec Neo Eco line are rebranded Seasonic units that are very high quality. The Antec Neo Eco 400W should be plenty for your friend's system. The Raidmax case is cheap looking and uses an outdated interior design. I'd go with a NZXT Source 210 Elite or Antec Series One which are two great budget cases. There is nothing exactly wrong with the motherboard but it's lacking in features (no USB 3.0 or SATA 6Gb/s) and you could do better for the price with a combo. The RAM I would change to either a G.SKILL kit or Samsung 30nm sticks that have been popular around here for their high overclockability. Due to the high price of hard drives now I'd go used (like off our own for sale section) or go with an SSD like the Crucial M4 64GB if he has a spare hard drive from the old system for games and data.
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I'd change everything except the A8-3850. Antec makes some good PSUs but I've never heard of the one you selected. The Antec Neo Eco line are rebranded Seasonic units that are very high quality. The Antec Neo Eco 400W should be plenty for your friend's system. The Raidmax case is cheap looking and uses an outdated interior design. I'd go with a NZXT Source 210 Elite or Antec Series One which are two great budget cases. There is nothing exactly wrong with the motherboard but it's lacking in features (no USB 3.0 or SATA 6Gb/s) and you could probably do better for the price with combos. The RAM I would change to either some G.SKILL kit or Samsung 30nm sticks that have been popular around here for their high overclockability. Due to the high price of hard drives now I'd go used (like off our own for sale section) or go with an SSD like the Crucial M4 64GB if he has a spare hard drive from the old system for games and data.

I completely agree with this. Is your friend dead-set on that computer case? For such a large case, it's a waste to only have a few components.. should definitely consider an mATX build to save on desk space.
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Ok thanks for the suggestions. I changed just about everything. thumb.gif
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I completely agree with this. Is your friend dead-set on that computer case? For such a large case, it's a waste to only have a few components.. should definitely consider an mATX build to save on desk space.
He kinda wanted that because it looked cool, but I will try to convince him otherwise.
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Ok thanks for the suggestions. I changed just about everything. thumb.gif
He kinda wanted that because it looked cool, but I will try to convince him otherwise.

Haha just a suggestion from personal experience..

My first case was the CM Storm Scout, and had at least 10 drive bays (5 or so HDD, 5 or so optical). I only used 3 of them. Plus I only occupied two slots with a graphics card on my full ATX motherboard, pretty much wasting the other PCI-E lanes since I never intended to SLI.

Since then I've scaled down my computer builds to mATX builds. Makes them much easier to move, and no longer do my computers cast huge shadows over my desk heh.
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Spending $85 on the case and PSU (or more) is a bit unjustified when the power-efficient but powerful A8-3850 can be run on even a 200W generic PSU that comes with a prebuilt (just don't use a degraded old/very used one).  I recommend reducing your budget on the case and PSU and adjusting the balance to focus on other options - i.e. a 3870k and perhaps a motherboard that may give you better overclocking flexibility (look for heatsinked VRMs).  You can probably get a larger sized, more decent HDD at NCIX US for the same or similar price (last week they had 500GB for $76 shipped) - the next weekly sale is beginning soon.

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Haha just a suggestion from personal experience..
My first case was the CM Storm Scout, and had at least 10 drive bays (5 or so HDD, 5 or so optical). I only used 3 of them. Plus I only occupied two slots with a graphics card on my full ATX motherboard, pretty much wasting the other PCI-E lanes since I never intended to SLI.
Since then I've scaled down my computer builds to mATX builds. Makes them much easier to move, and no longer do my computers cast huge shadows over my desk heh.

Yeah I bought my case purely because I think it looks really cool. I regret it because it doesn't have very good cooling.
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Spending $85 on the case and PSU (or more) is a bit unjustified when the power-efficient but powerful A8-3850 can be run on even a 200W generic PSU that comes with a prebuilt (just don't use a degraded old/very used one). I recommend reducing your budget on the case and PSU and adjusting the balance to focus on other options - i.e. a 3870k and perhaps a motherboard that may give you better overclocking flexibility (look for heatsinked VRMs). You can probably get a larger sized, more decent HDD at NCIX US for the same or similar price (last week they had 500GB for $76 shipped) - the next weekly sale is beginning soon.

So what would be a good lower wattage psu?
Edited by skullking17 - 2/15/12 at 7:11pm
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Spending $85 on the case and PSU (or more) is a bit unjustified when the power-efficient but powerful A8-3850 can be run on even a 200W generic PSU that comes with a prebuilt (just don't use a degraded old/very used one).  I recommend reducing your budget on the case and PSU and adjusting the balance to focus on other options - i.e. a 3870k and perhaps a motherboard that may give you better overclocking flexibility (look for heatsinked VRMs).  You can probably get a larger sized, more decent HDD at NCIX US for the same or similar price (last week they had 500GB for $76 shipped) - the next weekly sale is beginning soon.
I agree with you about the motherboard and upgrading to the A8-3870K if possible, but getting a cheaper PSU and case isn't the way to do it in my opinion. Spending $85 for a case and PSU isn't that high for a budget build. The case is something that can be reused with many future upgrades and a decent PSU would allow for those upgrades. Quality PSUs below 400W are hard to find.
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