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Hmm San Bernardino...I'm sure your already aware. Careful on this idea, theft can be an issue. Good luck!

Yea i know I'm planning to be in a heavy traffic area and a place that's well lit. Also jacobwt226 for some reason i cant see your links but I'm not sure if that's only me.
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post #22 of 48
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Dude... it's nowhere near Silicon Valley... lachen.gif
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The only way a cyber-cafe is going to survive is by doing three things:
* Being able to get conditional use permit for late-hour / after-hour business
* Offering classes in the day time for various things like eBay, Office, Windows classes, and so on
* Getting involved with the community by doing gaming events and tournaments with prizes (cash or local gift cards to Best Buy, etc), and doing them often enough to keep people paying to use the PC's for gaming

Within 1,000 miles is close to silicon valley. Considering the vast majority of the planet pays nearly double for pc parts. The closer you get to silicon the cheaper parts get.
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Within 1,000 miles is close to silicon valley. Considering the vast majority of the planet pays nearly double for pc parts. The closer you get to silicon the cheaper parts get.

My friend in Korea picked up his 2600k from Youngsan market for 300,000KRW. That comes out to 266USD. Somehow, your statement doesn't seem to be making sense.
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What I would recommend is:
1. stock cooling on everything
2. low end i5 quad cores
3. 560Ti's
4. H61 boards
I'd recommend trying to focus around building your whole system to run at about 450-500 watts.

A build like that would be in the 350w range.
post #25 of 48
OK. I will be honest. Every Cyber Cafe that has opened in my area has failed. Except one. Know where they are? Right next to GameStop. They share a wall. Yeah. Taco Bell, Burger King, Wendy's, KFC and a great Local Coffee shop are literally 50 yards away. See what's going on there? Not only have they opened in a high traffic area, but they do not require to have food services available with all thats around them. And with GameStop right next door they have access to a wide variety of business there. So much that they opened a closable, lockable doorway between the Cyber Cafe and the Gamestop itself. Everytime a new game is released like MW3, BF3 that cybercafe was PACKED. Not only do they have the PCs for the gaming but PS3, XBoxs. They are open in the afternoons until like 10pm on the weekdays and until 2am on the weekends.They are cleaning up! Remember that you have to have hours that are sensible. Whats the point in having the Gaming Cafe open at 10am when the first customer does not show until 2pm? That's wasted money in power etc. Do your research. Have 1 or 2 machines that are a bit on the lower end. Dual Core/Quad Core/GTS450 or equivilent for lighter games.

Also, go air cooling. Hyper 212+ will give you excellent cooling for a great price. Intel does have great processors out there. But maybe AMD would offer good value as well. Also. I would go with GTX460 minimum or the ATI/AMD equivilent. Mind you I said Minimum. Make sure you get good cases that allow you to secure it closed. Nothing too flashy but still appealing. Steer clear of expensive cases but still get something of quality. Minumum 4GB of RAM but I would really go with 8GB if you can get a good deal. I would also go with maximum of 21"-22" monitors. NO MULTI MONITOR SETUPS. I think even a good 19" would be sufficient. Do Not buy the cheapest monitors as picture quality will suffer. Get good quality, well priced models. If you plan on doing a console gaming section make sure that you have a large enough LCD TV for 4 Player matches etc. Networking is not a bad idea either. Make sure the gaming seating is comfortable yet not too expensive and easy to clean. I would start with two each of the console gaming areas(mainly Xbox and PS3) and roughly 6-10 Gaming PCs. I would not worry about Wiis. Not a large enough interest there. Leave enough options for expanding. Maybe a Pool table or other entertainment for those waiting to get into matches. Keep people from getting bored.

Host LANS! Yes you have computers. But if you get enough interest people can bring their LAN rigs! Offer space for them to hook up! Offer wireless and wired hookup. Power and seating. For a decent price of course.

Host Matches! BF3, MW3, hell even some classics! BFBC2 is still popular. CoD is too. Do racing Matches! Forza etc! People like to game and like to do it in groups and have fun! Have a "Wall of PWNers". High scores wall! People get their names up there and will want to keep coming back to beat it. Their friends will keep coming back to try to beat that high score too!!!

If you do the research and get a great place with good amenities nearby you will be successful. Keep your prices reasonable but still try to make a profit.

Good luck.
Edited by Erick Silver - 2/16/12 at 12:14am
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Dude... it's nowhere near Silicon Valley... lachen.gif
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The only way a cyber-cafe is going to survive is by doing three things:
* Being able to get conditional use permit for late-hour / after-hour business
* Offering classes in the day time for various things like eBay, Office, Windows classes, and so on
* Getting involved with the community by doing gaming events and tournaments with prizes (cash or local gift cards to Best Buy, etc), and doing them often enough to keep people paying to use the PC's for gaming

Within 1,000 miles is close to silicon valley. Considering the vast majority of the planet pays nearly double for pc parts. The closer you get to silicon the cheaper parts get.

Yeah, I realize that you're trying to make things workout for your statement (in which I quoted) and that's ok with me. But in reality 'close' means something different than what you and I would term it for most people.

In any case, would you say that something within 1000 miles away from where you are is 'close' to you? confused.gif

You wouldn't. But anyways, it was more funny to me than anything, and probably anyone who is from California (born and bred) or who knows California (as I do). My post quoting yours wasn't meant as anything other than a laugh from someone who is from California (born and bred as I am) and knows California well.

There is no need to take offense and rebut my post with some illogical rationalization of 'proximity'. wink.gif

( edit )

You may have been thinking of San Leandro, San Mateo, or Santa Clara; I don't know. But San Bernardino is in southern California while the rest are in northern California. Just a little California geography for you. thumb.gif
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Gaming cyber cafe?

It will fail horrifically fast, the thing about PC gamers is that they are stubborn elitists, if theyre a PC gamer, they'll have their own PC. If they want to play with friends, they'll go online with vent/teamspeak/mumble.

Parts are cheap, internet is cheap. There's no reason for this as a business as everyone who wants to do it will already be doing it at home.
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Location is huge. We have one in my city and it is a good location. The majority in my city are relatively poor and can't afford their own computers or consoles. So everybody goes to this one cafe because that's one of their few options. The computers in there use an i5 2400, 500gb hard drives, and a GTX 460. They all play games nicely.
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Gaming cyber cafe?
It will fail horrifically fast, the thing about PC gamers is that they are stubborn elitists, if theyre a PC gamer, they'll have their own PC. If they want to play with friends, they'll go online with vent/teamspeak/mumble.
Parts are cheap, internet is cheap. There's no reason for this as a business as everyone who wants to do it will already be doing it at home.

Quoted for truth.. to some degree; I disagree with some of things he said -- LANs were (and still are, as the same stuff applies) a great way to shut people up, as they could no longer complain about valid factors such as lag or having a system that wasn't good enough to maintain 60 FPS 100% of the time.

Back in the 2000s, I used to hit up some cyber cafe (note: all PCs) in an Asian mall, so you know what they had -- food, food, food, coffee drinks, tapioca drinks... and some competitive Asian gamers. Needless to say, SC, CS and WC3 were the main games.

The place was booming for the most part, but later on the interest just died down -- playing the same games over, and over, and over, and over... get kind of boring. And the fact that you were shelling out money meant you could have been spending that money on a new PC. Which also goes to my next point: the fact that PC building became more accessible to people. I mean, let's face it: most people bought pre-configured PCs back in the days, which probably sucked for most (i.e. crappy graphics card which couldn't handle WC3.. for instance ^^). Now it's common to see a custom PC -- cheaper and better.

Basically, I don't recommend making a cyber cafe with just PCs -- you better have PS3s, 360s, and possibly some arcades (e.g. fighting games -- TTT2, SSF4AE ~ we still have some arcades up in LA) as you want to expand your clientele. Oh, and obviously create some form of "hype" (i.e. do what Level|Up Series does. If you don't know, google them up) and be near some places with food + drinks + high traffic. Good luck.
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edited my previous post.
Edited by Erick Silver - 2/16/12 at 12:21am
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