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Hi
Im new to OC and id like to push safely my e6400 from stock 2.13 to ~2.7 Ghz
Here's my setup:

Mobo: Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi (latest bios)
Memory: Kingston Valueram DDR2-667 (CL5)
Cooling(air): Antec SP2 500W PSU

What settings should I use? Any recommandations? Thanks alot...
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post #2 of 13
Welcome to the forums.

Please go to your USER CP tab in your profile and fill out the system specs with your equipment.....this way it will show on all your posts and make helping a lot easier.


I suggest you read over the guides linked on this site and follwo them closely. What settings should you use? Whatever settings work best for you. In short, just pluggin in some settings will not always yield good results. Each system is different, even ones with the same componants.

Your goal of 2.7 should be attainable with the equipment listed, that RAM will likely hold you back from going much higher than 2.7 without running the RAM slower than the CPU which could still yield some performance gains, but will definatly cap out sooner than higher RAM would.

Again, check out the guides, and start slowly increasing the FSB, I usually recomend only changing 1 setting at a time myself, makes it easier to troubleshoot what is causing errors if any.....
post #3 of 13
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I edited my profile and read the guides but im still confused on how should i set my memory to have optimal performance gains...
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post #4 of 13
This may help:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...80&postcount=1

NOTE! Before you go into your BIOS and start changing settings you should:

1) Know your current settings (the defaults most likely)
2) Your hardware limits (temps and voltages) - stay away from the redline!
2) Have a copy of your BIOS (no offense - better safe than sorry)

As Thumper stated, no 2 rigs are the same. Do some, no scratch that. Do a lot of reading, know what you are doing. You do not want to simply change settings w/o knowing what you are doing. Here is some material to get you started.

General Ino: http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...ing-guide.html

RAM: http://articles.networktechs.com/printer-1.html

Once you get rolling you will need to test stability:
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

For dual cores follow this guide:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16446

I hope that this helps
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post #5 of 13
Use CPU-Z to show at what timings and ratio your system is running at: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php, use the 1.37v.

Take some screen shots and show them.
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Thank you guys for your patience and informations.

Ok here's a screenshot of my current settings - OC 20% via the
AI N.O.S utility in the BIOS (everything to "auto")
Running @ 2.56 stable but im still wondering about temperatures
(core 1: 47 and core2: 50 mobo: 38) ? Is this acceptable? ambiant temp is around 20...

Everyhting being set to Auto I dont think im taking full advantage
of my CPU... I know my memory will set the limit but any advices to tweak
it better would be appreciated

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post #7 of 13
1-Update to the 0711 BIOS which were released on 10-2.

2-Try these settings:

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Now, on the RAM part, instead of what I used, try: 4-4-4-12 @ 2.3v, don't use the AI NOS utility. Also for RAM set it at less than 833mhz, right now in that pic it shows 999 but that's a 2:3 ratio, an 833 will be a 4:5 ratio, so I guess your next ratio will be 1:1 which your RAM will be running at 667mhz but with a 4-4-4-12 latencies. Give it a try.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
1-Update to the 0711 BIOS which were released on 10-2.
Off topic: What were the changes in 0711? Because it's not listed on the website.... 0706 is the latest one they have.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
Now, on the RAM part, instead of what I used, try: 4-4-4-12 @ 2.3v, don't use the AI NOS utility. Also for RAM set it at less than 833mhz, right now in that pic it shows 999 but that's a 2:3 ratio, an 833 will be a 4:5 ratio, so I guess your next ratio will be 1:1 which your RAM will be running at 667mhz but with a 4-4-4-12 latencies. Give it a try.

Since he is having some trouble understanding the RAM part, I would recomend he just set it at 700 speed and leave the stock timings. Once he gets the CPU to 350FSB it'll be 1:1 and then he can play with timings once the CPU is stable. I like to concentrate on just one thing at a time, makes it easier, and when something fails, it's easier to figure out what you need to address.
post #9 of 13
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Thanks im gonna try this and post the results.
BTW where did you get 0711 BIOS? On Asus site the latest BIOS released
is 0706 (09-22)
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Deluxe/WiFi-AP
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post #10 of 13
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I followed your advices and I had no problem but im still a bit confused. In Everest the Clock speed moves from 2667 to 1997 while in CPU-z its stable a 2667. Also the memory write/copy performances are worst than stock but zLib, Queen, etc scored a little better.

I tried increasing the vcore to 1.5 also but Voltage stays to 1.2 (?)

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