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I purchased a D-link 624 router off of here last week and I am having trouble setting it up to play nice with my school's network.

Specifically, I am unable to access locally hosted campus sites, and the google music cloud player refuses to stream.

I have DHCP turned on using a different scheme altogether (school dhcp uses typical 192.168.0.x and I set the router to give out 10.10.10.x IPs). I have the DNS set to the school's local DNS that is automatically picked up when connected directly to the wall port. Computers had problems connecting when WPA was turned on, so I enabled MAC filtering.

I am a networking amateur. Am I doing this right? How can correct the DNS routing issue to get to locally hosted sites?
    
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You probley want to turn the dhcp off and use the schools dhcp, so the router would be a dumb switch (is that the right term?). Just to confirm you do have permission to use a router right smile.gif?
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Make sure it's on the same range as the school.

You will need to turn off DHCP and turn into a dumb router (Yes that's a real term) basically it will become a unmanaged switch. Simple as that. You will also need to make sure DNS is done by the campus DNS servers and not your switch, otherwise it can't turn the internal pages name into a real IP.

It will just get stuck, also if they can't connect using WPA (which you shouldn't be using anyway) try WPA2 with AES at least. Otherwise it's about as secure as leaving your front door open and everything boxed up ready for robbers to take.

However...

You may run into issues if your campus uses a proxy server that has filtering on it as you will also get the filtering and there is nothing you can do about that though.

(I work in networking, not saying I'm right but it should give some faith to what I wrote).
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Am thinking your router's firmware or configuration may have a clause where it will not route to private IP address ranges on the WAN interface..
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You probley want to turn the dhcp off and use the schools dhcp, so the router would be a dumb switch (is that the right term?).

Simply turning off DHCP will not disable routing functions.
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I purchased a D-link 624 router off of here last week and I am having trouble setting it up to play nice with my school's network.
Specifically, I am unable to access locally hosted campus sites, and the google music cloud player refuses to stream.
I have DHCP turned on using a different scheme altogether (school dhcp uses typical 192.168.0.x and I set the router to give out 10.10.10.x IPs). I have the DNS set to the school's local DNS that is automatically picked up when connected directly to the wall port. Computers had problems connecting when WPA was turned on, so I enabled MAC filtering.
I am a networking amateur. Am I doing this right? How can correct the DNS routing issue to get to locally hosted sites?

Please make sure you have authorization to use a router on the school's network. Many schools (if not all) will not allow extra networking devices as they can not control them and they will start interfering with installed equipment (i.e. wifi).

Change the IP scheme to 192.168.x.x. The current IPs are in a range I would never recommend using without full networking knowledge. The 192.168 range is specifically addressed for private routing. You might also have an issue with how it creates subnet masks.

My real recommendation is connecting your computer, getting an IP, then copying your MAC address to the router to spoof it on the network so it doesn't notice (not entirely invisible, but probably a good try to get normal access).

You really should ask the school's IT department for configuration settings, assuming they allow it at all.
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You probley want to turn the dhcp off and use the schools dhcp, so the router would be a dumb switch (is that the right term?). Just to confirm you do have permission to use a router right smile.gif?

This is a good suggestion as well. It would act more like a switch/hub instead of what is commonly referred to as a "router." No real reason to even have an extra network, I think that might be the issue due to subnet masking (don't get me started on that, you'll smash things halfway through the explanation, lmao). Turn off DHCP and point it to the school and see if that resolves everything thumb.gif
     
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Simply turning off DHCP will not disable routing functions.

I ment some have to option on wether to use it as a switch or router sorry smile.gif (some can work as both wouldnt a witch work in this case?)
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Provided you turned off all the Routing features that then makes it into a switch then possibly.

Like said in other posts do you know if you have any proxy configurations or authentication for your network?
Like your Windows Login you have to authenticate with or like a given MAC Address?
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Thanks for all the replies.

I originally set it up to use the default 192.168.0.1 with dhcp off, but my one rig hooked up via Ethernet was the only one that could get a connection, my phone via wifi could not. I'm thinking the wall Jack only assigns a single IP but I can try that again.

I also already cloned my rig's MAC onto the router, since we do have authentication. The network team doesn't support routers, but as long as it doesn't interfere with the network they're fine. I purchased it to bypass the schools terrible wifi.

No security at the moment, but MAC filtering is on. I know it is not terribly secure, but this is better while I'm trying to figure this out.

What about only using the LAN ports and not the WAN? Would that still work if I'm using wireless?
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You need to stop it from being a "router" and turn it into a switch.

Don't use the WAN port - but first you MUST disable the DHCP functionality of it.

Then just enable the wireless settings as you need - it will draw a DHCP address from the school's DHCP server.
    
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- WPA2 protection
- DHCP off
- Set the routers IP address to whatever your computer would normally get
- Change router's default admin password
- Use a LAN port to connect to the school's internet, the WAN port is only for connection ti the actual internet source (AKA cable modem)

If the school is against the use of routers, but is okay with you having multiple devices, you could always just get a wireless card for your main rig and use that as a wi-fi hotpost. Then you have no need for a router or switch.
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