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I am looking into getting a gaming laptop. I am pretty much set on getting an alienware. I know I will have some haters but it is reliable and I like the fact that it has a backlit keyboard. Anyways, this what I have narrowed it down to, although I am open to other suggestions of modifying the laptop. These are options I have selected to upgrade.

M17x - for about 2450 after coupons and special offers

PROCESSOR: Intel® Core™ i7 2670QM 2.2GHz (3.1GHz w/Turbo Boost, 6MB Cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
MEMORY: 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz (4DIMMS)
VIDEO CARD: 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580M
HARD DRIVE: 1TB Raid 0 (2x 500GB Hybrid Solid State Drives)
LCD PANEL: 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920x1080 120Hz WLED w/ NVIDIA 3D Vision Bundle
WIRELESS CARD: Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 a/g/n 3x3 MIMO for Gaming & Video
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE: 8X Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)


M18x - for about 2800 after coupons and special offers

PROCESSOR: Intel® Core™ i7 2670QM 2.2GHz (3.1GHz w/Turbo Boost, 6MB Cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
MEMORY: 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz (2DIMMS)
VIDEO CARD: Dual 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580M – NVIDIA® SLI® Enabled
HARD DRIVE: 750GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s
WIRELESS + BLUETOOTH: Intel® Advanced-N 6200 a/g/n 2x2 MIMO Technology and Bluetooth 3.0
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE: Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
SOUND OPTIONS: Soundblaster® X-Fi™ Hi Def Audio - Software Enabled.





M17x PROS:
-120 hz screen
- double the ram
-cheaper
-a bit faster hdd
-more space
-better wireless card

M17x CONS:
-only 1 gpu
-cant upgrade soundcard




M18x PROS:
-SLI GPU
-upgraded soundcard
-bluetooth (No idea what I'd need or use this for though)

M18x CONS:
-60 hz screen
-less ram (4 is fine tho)
-more expensive
-250gb less space along with being a tad bit slower (still not a huge con)
-stock wireless




My thoughts are that I am leaning towards the M17x option. What do you think? The reasoning behind me not upgrading more things on the m18x is because the cost is already pretty high and the only reason I would go with it is if the SLI gpu and the sound card alone are enough to outweigh the m17x option. Thanks for all input.
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Alienware is NOT recommended if you are just entering into the mix of things for gaming laptops since you can get soooo much more for a LOT cheaper if you just look around.

For instance, the Satori P170HM and the Veda P180HM.

Now, the P170HM is a Clevo laptop, A.K.A. Sager NP8170, and is the primary competitor to anything from anyone, in this case the M17x. For the setup you provided on the M17x, here's what you can get on the flip side of things for under $2,400:

Customizations:
Promotions: $100 OFF Configurations Over $1500
Display: 17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED AUO B173HW01 V.5 72% NTSC Matte Display
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.4-3.5GHz
Memory: (8GB) 8192MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 2 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: AMD® Radeon HD 6990M 2GB GDDR5
Hard Drive: 120GB Intel® (520) SATA III 6Gb/s SSD2 Drive
Hard Drive 2: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA-300
Optical Drive Bay: 6X Blu-ray Reader 8X DVD+/-R DL Super-Multi Drive
Operating System: None
Wireless: Intel® 6230 Advanced-N 802.11A/B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: IC Diamond 7 Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: English: US & Canada
Power Cord: US & Canada
Branding: MALIBAL
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days (Estimated Time)
Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd. Labor and 2 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (USA)
Extras: Standard Black Carrying Case
Extras: Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Web Camera
Extras: Integrated 9 in 1 Card Reader
Extras: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Extras: MALIBAL Software & Drivers Disc
Extras: PowerDVD & Bison Cam Software Package

The screen is native 1920x1080 also, so if you wanted to stick with the standard glossy screen, shave over another $200 right there.
The primary drive would be the Intel 520 SSD with a 500 GB HDD for data, infinitely faster for overall performance.
The CPU is faster as well, mild bump in performance, but hey, why not?
Also, it comes stock with 8GB of RAM.
The 6990M is faster at stock than the 580M and overclocks better due to the higher stock voltage too.
Bluray player, more powerful wifi card (This is recommended above all other items there), better TIM for the CPU and GPU, and a solid two year warranty.
Also, the $100 off hasn't been taken into effect yet. That's not until checkout. wink.gif So this is really under $2300.


Now the P180HM is another Clevo branded laptop, A.K.A. Sager NP 8180, designed to combat the larger lines from other dealers. Up until recently, there wasn't anything there to combat it. Now the only thing there is the M18x, which it soundly stomps for the price given.

For $2538 this is what the P180HM offers:

Customizations:
Promotions: $100 OFF Configurations Over $1500
Display: 18.4" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit Glossy Display
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.2-3.1GHz
Memory: (8GB) 8192MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 2 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: 2 X AMD® Radeon HD 6990M 2GB GDDR5 (CrossFireX)
Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
Hard Drive 2: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA-300
Hard Drive 3: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
RAID: 0 High Performance (Three Hard Drive Configuration)
Optical Drive Bay: 6X Blu-ray Reader 8X DVD+/-R DL Super-Multi Drive
Operating System: None
Wireless: Intel® 6230 Advanced-N 802.11A/B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: IC Diamond 7 Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: English: US & Canada
Power Cord: US & Canada
Branding: Red Edition
AC Adapter: Full Range AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, 300W AC Adapter, DC output 20V, 15A
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days (Estimated Time)
Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd. Labor and 2 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (USA)
Extras: PowerDVD & Bison Cam Software Package
Extras: MALIBAL Software & Drivers Disc
Extras: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Extras: Integrated 9 in 1 Card Reader
Extras: Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Web Camera

Again, price drop hasn't been taken into effect yet, so this is around $2400.
CPU is the same as the M18x, though if you're willing to drop $2800 then you can easily upgrade to the 2860QM and be vastly superior.
Again, stock with 8GB of RAM.
Dual 6990Ms in CrossfireX. These scale better in games as far as I know and overclock better. (Yes the cooling is easily sufficient for OCing GPUs.)
THREE 500GB drives in Raid0. And again, this is still cheaper for better if not equal performance. tongue.gif
Again, bluray player, enhanced wifi card, better TIM, standard 300w adapter, and a two year warranty, since that's about how long it should be before you need to upgrade again. tongue.gif

So your pick really. Alienware has a nice line... but they're highly highly overrated and still very overpriced for what you request.
     
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I'd recommend the 18. You won't be able to make very good use of the 120hz screen with a single 580m, and my thoughts on the subject are to max out what you can't upgrade and settle for the rest for now. That would mean as good of a GPU as you can get, if you can swing dual GPUs in your budget, you'll be making very very good use of the extra dollars.
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Thanks, I really appreciate the suggestions. I think the Veda one is decent but I really am dead set on getting alienware just because of the fact that it has a backlit keyboard. I really really like that feature. I have always ragged on alienware but now that I want a reliable gaming laptop I am willing to spend a little more just to have that feature.
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I didn't see the other post. So with the 17 I would have no use of the 120hz?
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I didn't see the other post. So with the 17 I would have no use of the 120hz?

Well, yes and no. The screen would work perfectly at 120hz, but with a single 580m you would have a tough time actually playing any games at 120hz. That speed of a monitor is much better suited for the power of a dual graphics card system like the m18x. I can speak to that, since I use my m18x with crossfire 6990m's with a 120hz samsung monitor and it's amazing. It struggles enough to maintain 120hz in games like BF3 and swtor that I doubt you'd ever get to see the benefits of it with only one graphics card.
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Well, if you're dead set on the Alienware then take the configuration and make sure you talk to someone over the phone. Trust me, I've known people who have haggled off another 25%. thumb.gif
     
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Well yes I am pretty deadset on Alienware I rly just don't know which one I want.
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get 18 for sure . That dual gpu out weights any other pro from m 17x. Also laptop gpus are not so easy to upgrade lol u can always upgrade ur ram and hdd later
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Alright I am rly leaning towards the 18 now but what am I supposed
To say on the phone for a lower price.
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