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If you want a low power consumption..

Having an SSD as boot-drive will allow the other HDD to go into idle much faster.
 
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Heck, I bought my first SSD simply because I couldn't stand how long it took W7 to boot. It was worth every penny.
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I have an SSD, but I can honestly say that, knowing what I know now, I wish I waited until the GB/$ ratio was better. Sure, Windows boots fast. Sure, my games open faster. Sure, there's very little to absolutely no wait time for programs/applications to open. But, the thing is, I was never really had a problem waiting for them to open up.

It's about whether or not you want it. If you want the speed (I'd argue against "need," since I don't believe anyone truly needs the speed). If you want it, go for it! Getting an SSD is like getting a better processor or video card IMHO. There are plenty of CPUs/GPUs out that there that'll "get the job done," but the reason why we opt for something better is because we want to max things out. Really though, that's all it comes down to.
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Originally Posted by blupupher View Post

Short answer, a SSD will boot into windows faster and load programs faster.
Your "need" for one depends on your use.
I got one only because I got a really good deal on it. Sure it is nice. but I still think it is priced to high for "normal" users. The recent increase in HDD prices makes it a little more economical, but not a whole lot.
Do I like my SSD, sure. Windows boots in under 20 seconds, games (when loaded on the SSD) load very quickly. I only have Crysis loaded on my SSD since I only have a 64 gig SSD.
Will I get another one, yes, but only once prices are around $0.50/GB, not the current $1+/gb.
I actually just purchased a Raptor for my wifes computer (her 250 gig drive is dying) and since they have some really good deals on them, why not. $45 for 150 gigs of space vs ~$80+ for 60 gigs, not a hard choice for me.

^^^ That's honesty. And he's agreeing with me. So that's 9000 to 2. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by blupupher View Post

Like I said, SSD's are nice, but not everybody needs one.
We know nothing about the OP system or intended use.

Thank you.
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"Far too little improvement"
Tell me, have you ever tried a system with an SSD installed?

Tell me, can you look at my system and see that I own 2 systems with SSDs installed? One of them is running on nothing BUT an SSD. No HDD to slow anything down..
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Huge difference. You are opening programs constantly, whether you realize it or not. Anything you open in windows, whether it be task manager, device manager, control panel, etc, opens instantly, rather than waiting for a delay. IE opens faster and closes faster, shutting down your PC is a ton faster, as well as the boot up. If you own 2 SSDs, and say they are not worth it, please provide reasons as to why.

I have provided reasons. For what I do, that is, opening Firefox to read the news/watch a movie, I don't need to save a half a second. For opening BF3, I don't need an SSD (because it's the crappy Origin/BL and servers that take forever) Before I got my first one, I asked everyone how an SSD would help my usage. Everyone gave me the same spiel they're giving this guy. And it was bunk. The things I did opened instantly before (thanks, Superfetch!) and is very much the same now. Sure, it's a *bit* snappier, but I could have lived without it, and had I not got the deals I did, I would have been happy that way.

That's reason enough not to spend 200 dollars on one, eh?
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Originally Posted by onoz View Post

I have an SSD, but I can honestly say that, knowing what I know now, I wish I waited until the GB/$ ratio was better. Sure, Windows boots fast. Sure, my games open faster. Sure, little to absolutely no wait time for programs/applications to open. But, the thing is, I was never really had a problem waiting for them to open up.
It's about whether or not you want it. If you want the speed (I'd argue against "need," since I don't believe anyone truly needs the speed). If you want it, go for it! Getting an SSD is like getting a better processor or video card IMHO. There are plenty of CPUs/GPUs out that there that'll "get the job done," but the reason why we opt for something better is because we want to max things out. Really though, that's all it comes down to.

Make that 9000 to 3. wink.gif

All's not happy in SSD land, now is it.


When they come down to earth with pricing, that is, 120gb top of the line SSDs for 90-100 bucks, then they will, by all means, "be worth it."
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SSDs (I have three) are much faster for loading apps. The one area they don't help much with, unfortunately, is game load times. Seems much of the load times in many games is CPU bound by some sort of set-up operations. I have my entire Steam directory on a 512 GB SSD and it's only faster for loading a few games...most are about the same as a WD Caviar Black.

SSDs definitely help in open-world or MMO games where areas are loaded during gameplay.


But it really depends on the game: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-rift-ssd,3062-12.html
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To actually add something to this thread, I'm using two SSDs currently. An Intel X25-M 80gb in my work laptop and a Crucial C300 in my home desktop. While both are speedy, I noticed the biggest difference on the laptop, going from a 7200 rpm 2.5" drive to the SSD. For a while, we ran a pilot of about 15 users with them and seriously debated on switching about 200 people (half the company) to them purely for boot up time gain. Far too often people complain about their laptop taking 20 minutes to "boot", which means actually getting all of their applications open. It's very easy to justify $200 per user so they can actually work 30 minutes more throughout the day, without waiting on the disk to do something. Right about that time our company was purchased, now have 1200 users, and that idea went out the door.
 
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I think the main problem here is the definition of "worth". Is it worth getting a SSD? Depends on you, your requirements and your budget. pursuinginsanity is convinced that is in not, everyone else in this thread is convinced that it is. In a way you are all wrong as you are trying to force your personal needs and wants on everyone else; it needs to be judged on an individual basis.

For me my SSD is worth it. Why? Because I wanted one, I could afford it and I like the increase in speed over my old RAID array. I like that everything feels a lot faster; updates, installations, opening programs, booting windows etc. I am always opening and closing programs, and having them come up essentially instantly is a lot nicer than having to wait a few seconds.

Another nice improvement for me is the noise level. When my computer is idling the fans spin down to ~300RPM, the pump drops to 50% and the noisiest thing is my HDDs. Now I can shut them off after 5 mins and run off my SSD, making my computer almost silent when I am surfing or working.

So those are the reasons I have one, and for me it is totally worth the money.
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SSDs definitely help in open-world or MMO games where areas are loaded during gameplay.
But it really depends on the game: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-rift-ssd,3062-12.html
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Oh definitely it can make an appreciable difference in many situation, it's just not as dramatic as app load times which are basically instantaneous - especially on the newer SATA 3 SSDs. I don't regret having two SSDs in my gaming rig (the other is in my laptop), but my smaller OS-install SSD has a much bigger impact than my games SSD.

Edit: also, you're showing game launching...I'm not sure if that's the same as level loading within the game. Like I said some games load levels faster and other (like Civ V) are about the same as they're CPU bound during level loading.
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I think the main problem here is the definition of "worth". Is it worth getting a SSD? Depends on you, your requirements and your budget. pursuinginsanity is convinced that is in not, everyone else in this thread is convinced that it is. In a way you are all wrong as you are trying to force your personal needs and wants on everyone else; it needs to be judged on an individual basis.
For me my SSD is worth it. Why? Because I wanted one, I could afford it and I like the increase in speed over my old RAID array. I like that everything feels a lot faster; updates, installations, opening programs, booting windows etc. I am always opening and closing programs, and having them come up essentially instantly is a lot nicer than having to wait a few seconds.
Another nice improvement for me is the noise level. When my computer is idling the fans spin down to ~300RPM, the pump drops to 50% and the noisiest thing is my HDDs. Now I can shut them off after 5 mins and run off my SSD, making my computer almost silent when I am surfing or working.
So those are the reasons I have one, and for me it is totally worth the money.

The original posters question never asked if it was "worth it". He simply said why should he by one, which suggests he is asking its benefits. There is no argument that SSDs are considerably faster than spindle hard drives. Significant speed in every day tasks is why you would buy one. Feel free to post evidence that states that they are not significantly faster, and I would be happy to hear it. Worth is up to the original poster, as I do not know his financial situation or income.
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Because the difference is like night and day.
    
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