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Would you rather have something linger, that can ping from system to system, taking us down in clusters en masse, or, would you rather isolate networks, one at a time, and filtrate not only the traces of the issue, but also the root and master clones aiding in the work? Not to white knight the situation, but if they're going to shut down networks, the smarter, the better, and if that includes us, then shut it and let g-men do their work.
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Originally Posted by Xeio View Post

Sounds like a great plan to me. If your computer is infected with this virus, you no longer get internet.
Fix your crap before you infect someone else. tongue.gif

Don't be so naive, ever heard of authorities "planting" evidence? They intentionally infect your computer, "Oh, your infected now, you don't have the right to access the web".
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Did you read the article? They are dumping the DNS servers they put up to deal with a worm, the only people who won't get Internet anymore are people infected, people who need to get their machines serviced and cleaned of this malware anyway. It is a GOOD thing, in my opinion.

No it's NOT a good thing, I can already think of 10 ways to abuse the system.
 
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Are you sure you understand the situation that's going on here?

why dont you explain it then
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Why laws on the internet? How about laws on cheaters in fps? biggrin.gif That i'd PAY to see happen! Still it's nice to prevent a virus spreading. I feel sorry for those who know nothing about computers and if they face this dilemma then they'll get a bit angry at the government for this idea. Not my problem but i hope they all know what to be prepared for. Learning about PC isn't so hard.
I wonder what would happen to laptop users? lol.

why would a laptop be effected any differently then a pc? What was that you were saying about people who don't know about computers.....
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Originally Posted by Xeio View Post

Sounds like a great plan to me. If your computer is infected with this virus, you no longer get internet.
Fix your crap before you infect someone else. tongue.gif
Don't be so naive, ever heard of authorities "planting" evidence? They intentionally infect your computer, "Oh, your infected now, you don't have the right to access the web"..
Well they're clearly already blocking yours since you must not have been able to read the article. wink.gif
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I think that shutting down these temporary DNS servers is justified. At this point if the user / company hasn't cleaned up their computer they never will, and this will force them to. However, they really need to start telling these people how to actually fix their DNS settings. I bet that most of these people who are still infected don't even realize that they are.

Here is some more info about how to check if you're infected: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/november/malware_110911/DNS-changer-malware.pdf

Looks like it has an interesting feature:
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The DNSChanger malware is capable of changing the DNS server settings within SOHO
routers that have the default username and password provided by the manufacturer. If you
did not change the default password at the time the SOHO router was installed, you must
check the SOHO router settings.

Even if your computer is clean your router might still be directing your computer to use bad / nonexistent DNS servers.
Edited by AtomicFrost - 2/16/12 at 8:29pm
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why dont you explain it then

A bunch of people were infected with malware that modified their computers so that they would connect to DNS servers run by the malware creators rather than standard DNS servers. The authorities caught the guys who created the malware and took down the servers. Then, they put up new clean DNS servers at the same address as the malicious ones, so that people who were infected could still use the internet until they get their machines fixed. Now they are going to take down these servers, as it has been some time since this whole thing went down and they aren't as needed anymore, and people really shouldn't need 6 months to deal with this problem in the first place.

This isn't something that the FBI had to do at all in the first place, they could have easily just taken down the rogue servers and left it like that.
    
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-snip-

This isn't something that the FBI had to do at all in the first place, they could have easily just taken down the rogue servers and left it like that.

Right? As someone said it before, let the G-Men do their job. The FBI really didn't have to do this at all, as this was just a really nice thing they did. If these people and businesses haven't gotten their computers cleaned of this Trojan, well then, that's their own damn fault.

No one's rights are in jeopardy here. No one's rights are being trounced on. It's your own damn fault if you didn't clean your system.

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Don't be so naive, ever heard of authorities "planting" evidence? They intentionally infect your computer, "Oh, your infected now, you don't have the right to access the web".
No it's NOT a good thing, I can already think of 10 ways to abuse the system.

Conspiracy theorists, hooooooooo! Because everything the government does is a conspiracy, AMIRITE?!
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Conspiracy theorists, hooooooooo! Because everything the government does is a conspiracy, AMIRITE?!

I wasn't talking about the article, I was responding to his comment directly. Just because you lack the ability to see things from a different perspective doesn't mean it's a conspiracy.
 
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I wasn't talking about the article, I was responding to his comment directly. Just because you lack the ability to see things from a different perspective doesn't mean it's a conspiracy.

To be fair, you are pretty consistently saying everything is a government plot in threads on this site...
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