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However, even with TLC flash at 6.5nm, Grupp calculates that SSDs will continue to outperform hard disk drives on throughput, 32,000 IOPS to 200 IOPS, respectively.

So Laura Grupp is predicitng that SSD's will peak at 6.5 nm flash architecture, and this will leave them "only" 160 times faster than HDDs. Why would anybody want to access their data "only" 160 times faster than the alternative?

Sounds real "bleak" ,thanks for the news hon.




In other news: Pencils and paper have a "bleak" outlook because they can only write data 160 times faster than using a hammer and chisel on a stone tablet. rolleyes.gif

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I dunno. On one hand, you have NAND (hey, that rhymed!), which can only handle so many writes, and the cost, up until recently has been pretty prohibitive. Then on the other hand, you have HDD's, which, can handle way more reads, and are cheap as dirt these days.

I'd like to think SSD's (using NAND) will be around for a quite a bit longer. I mean, we're just now seeing them hit $1.00 a gig or less, which is great. It's about time, because a 60G SSD is not worth 200 bucks, especially when your OS ties up 20 of that, and it's easy these days for 2-3 games to tie the rest up. No room for other apps and the like.

Either way, I plan on getting an SSD soon. Chicks dig em.
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I dunno. On one hand, you have NAND (hey, that rhymed!), which can only handle so many writes, and the cost, up until recently has been pretty prohibitive. Then on the other hand, you have HDD's, which, can handle way more reads, and are cheap as dirt these days.

The limited P/E cycles of NAND is not an issue for consumers due to wear leveling, ECC, and overprovisioning.


HDDs are not dirt cheap these days... they cost twice as much as they did last year. HDDs can handle more reads but at 10-50 times slower. Most people rather have performance now rather than longevity past 10 years.
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The limited P/E cycles of NAND is not an issue for consumers due to wear leveling, ECC, and overprovisioning.
HDDs are not dirt cheap these days... they cost twice as much as they did last year. HDDs can handle more reads but at 10-50 times slower. Most people rather have performance now rather than longevity past 10 years.

The last time I bought an HDD, which was August of last year, it was like 70 bucks for a 500Gig. Are they really that much more now?

*Just checked newegg* Holy Jesus. Same drive is 40 bucks more now.

Well then, I restate what I said earlier.... to hell with HDD's!
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The last time I bought an HDD, which was August of last year, it was like 70 bucks for a 500Gig. Are they really that much more now?
*Just checked newegg* Holy Jesus. Same drive is 40 bucks more now.
Well then, I restate what I said earlier.... to hell with HDD's!

The price increase is due to the flooding in Thailand.
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More people need to read about the memory hierarchy. (And companies need to advertise it) For enthusiasts, I doubt SSDs will ever replace HDDs completely, but more than likely just be yet another tier...You put programs (I severely doubt most of the people even on this site have over 20GB of actual programs, not including games...) on the SSD along with the OS, move your documents, pictures, music and movies to a HDD and move any games that are limited by your HDD to the SSD too.

It's really easy, I'm yet to actually get my SSD (And if I get it any time soon it won't be the Crucial M4, more likely an Intel 320 due to price without sacrificing reliability) but I've already got everything ready for when I do...C:\ drive is the SSD, and has Windows, Program Files, Program Files (x86), Program Data and a symlink to the Users folder which will be on my 1TB Spinpoint F3, my games will be on my 500GB Spinpoint F1 apart from Skyrim and The Sims 3, both of which benefit heavily from an SSD. (Skyrim does with all the texture mods I've put in, anyway. It lags to hell whenever I turn around because my HDD is pegged) For the hell of it, I'll add BF3. (Better load times, why not?)

All in all, I'll use roughly 87.2GB of SSD space, fairly efficiently. Easily fitted into the 128GB SSD for AU$189 (Cheaper than a HD7770!) I'll buy.
    
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This is just smoke and mirrors if you ask me.They will just use the smaller process for storage,and the larger faster ones for speed.rolleyes.gif
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In other news: Pencils and paper have a "bleak" outlook because they can only write data 160 times faster than using a hammer and chisel on a stone tablet. rolleyes.gif

LMAO!

Good post, dude. smile.gif

Equally wetting myself! Hahahahahaha! Best analogy of anything I've ever seen on these forums!


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Why not make some casing to harness a black hole inside it that way it can hold infinite amount of holographic information. Singularity drives anyone?
    
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If this stops people from buying ssd's I'm going to......
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