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Apple has lost every market they have ever entered. Apple may of gotten the tablet PC to catch on. But with competition offering at the very least a equivalent product at a lower price, Apple has it's ass kicked.
this same pattern continues with the iPhone and iMacs, and every other product they make...

Waits for the prompt "nooo, they're one of the most valuable companies now" argument in 3...2....1
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Their Macs are still (and almost always been) unreasonably overpriced, so this statistic makes sense. Their cheaper product sold better than their more expensive one. Maybe this should tell Apple to drop the price on their MacBook/MBP/MBA line and we might see a large increase in the number of Macs being used. Overall, their computers are decent and the OS is pretty stable, but they are just too damn expensive. .
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Seeing as their phones go thru less hardware upgrades and innovation than their ipods and macs, im not surprised. That money goes to marketing.
What? That makes no sense whatsoever. The iPhone has had significant hardware upgrades over the years -- 3G > 3GS > 4 > 4S have all had significant improvements, with the 4S bringing the most significant so far. Less innovation? You mean like the 4S being the first smartphone to have two receivers for data and cellular signal and being able to switch between the two on the fly for the strongest signal strength possible? Sure, that's not innovative at all.

Give someone a blank, unbranded iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S both on iOS 4 (no SIRI). They wont be able to tell the difference.
Also that dual antenna thing is really not new, heck tons of fake iPhones had it before the iPhone 4S.

Also it is well known Apple makes it's money from iPods/iPhones/iPads etc. Without them the company would have been in A LOT of trouble.

I really think that OCN doesn't mind Apple products, OCN just hates fanboys. And Apple seems to have the most prominent fanboys, ergo the indirect hate for Apple.
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But look at it this way. The macbook, think how many different macbook models come out each year, as opposed a single iphone model in a year. Ok, theres storage capacity but the rest of the iphone's internals (for that yearly release) stays pretty much the same correct?
They're not different models though, it's more a variation of the same model.
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Apple has lost every market they have ever entered. Apple may of gotten the tablet PC to catch on. But with competition offering at the very least a equivalent product at a lower price, Apple has it's ass kicked.
this same pattern continues with the iPhone and iMacs, and every other product they make...
You can match the hardware, but you can't match the software -- and the latter has a lot of appeal.
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Their Macs are still (and almost always been) unreasonably overpriced, so this statistic makes sense. Their cheaper product sold better than their more expensive one. Maybe this should tell Apple to drop the price on their MacBook/MBP/MBA line and we might see a large increase in the number of Macs being used. Overall, their computers are decent and the OS is pretty stable, but they are just too damn expensive. .
They're not overpriced. The iMac, Mac Mini, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro are all pretty great value -- if you want a powerful laptop like the MacBook Pro but also want great battery life, it's pricey. There's obviously better alternatives if you don't care about battery life.

The real difference here is that Apple only sells one model of each, unlike the competition whom have many different models, covering many different price points.
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Give someone a blank, unbranded iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S both on iOS 4 (no SIRI). They wont be able to tell the difference.
Also that dual antenna thing is really not new, heck tons of fake iPhones had it before the iPhone 4S.
Also it is well known Apple makes it's money from iPods/iPhones/iPads etc. Without them the company would have been in A LOT of trouble.
They will absolutely be able to tell the difference. Just open the camera, play a game, browse the web, etc.

It's not new, but Apple is the first to implement it in a smartphone.
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I really think that OCN doesn't mind Apple products, OCN just hates fanboys. And Apple seems to have the most prominent fanboys, ergo the indirect hate for Apple.
Nah. You've also got Intel, NVidia and AMD fanboys, both of which can be as bad as Apple fanboys, yet their fanboyism isn't the reason some people hate products from those companies and nor is it the reason why some people hate Apple products. In fact, I'd say fanboyism usually arises when a product is under attack.
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Apple has lost every market they have ever entered. Apple may of gotten the tablet PC to catch on. But with competition offering at the very least a equivalent product at a lower price, Apple has it's ass kicked.
this same pattern continues with the iPhone and iMacs, and every other product they make...

How has Apple had it's ass kicked? Even if you don't like Apple, you have to admit that other manufacturers have tried to up their game, especially in the software department. Apple may not always have the best product at any given time, but they set benchmarks.

I like Apple products and I own a bunch of them. Am I a fanboy? No, because I have an open mind.
Edited by tedman - 3/1/12 at 3:47am
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They will absolutely be able to tell the difference. Just open the camera, play a game, browse the web, etc.

It's not new, but Apple is the first to implement it in a smartphone.

Camera? The small increase is small. Play a game? Well I haven't found a game that lags on my iPhone 4, and not many use the dual core anyway. Browse the web? How will it be different?
The only thing they really changed was the A4 chip to the A5 chip.
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Camera? The small increase is small. Play a game? Well I haven't found a game that lags on my iPhone 4, and not many use the dual core anyway. Browse the web? How will it be different?
The only thing they really changed was the A4 chip to the A5 chip.

It's fairly significant year over year when they release new/updated products. I dont think they expect people to buy an iPhone every single year. For example me, I currently have a 3GS, I never had the urge to upgrade to the iPhone 4, because it isnt huge noticeable differences. yeah the screen is a bit sharper, bit snappier, but not by huge amounts. But when comparing 3GS to 4S, there is a big difference.

It's not just how much better hardware wise it can be in a year, if something works, why mess around with it and change it. And it's obvious less changes to each version make it easier for Apple to develop and update new versions of the phone. But everyone isnt going to be buying a new one every single year. So those changes are more noticeable to the majority of iPhone owners.
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Camera? The small increase is small. Play a game? Well I haven't found a game that lags on my iPhone 4, and not many use the dual core anyway. Browse the web? How will it be different?
The only thing they really changed was the A4 chip to the A5 chip.
The real difference you'll notice is the speed. Everything will be faster. Taking photos with the camera, opening an app, browsing the web. You'll notice better graphics in some games, and the difference in camera quality would be noticeable, and not just quality but speed too.
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Camera? The small increase is small. Play a game? Well I haven't found a game that lags on my iPhone 4, and not many use the dual core anyway. Browse the web? How will it be different?
The only thing they really changed was the A4 chip to the A5 chip.

Actually, the difference is quite noticeable. If someone handed me both phones unbranded minus Siri, I'd tell you which was which in a second.
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