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I always thought that you only need the stereoscopic glasses to see 3D view, nothing more, but now that these so called 3D monitors arrive, i am really confused - what is the difference between 3D monitor and not 3D monitor? Is this just some lame marketing trick? What do these 3D monitors have that they are called 3D?



Basically what i am asking is - what is the difference between:

3D monitor + SS glasses
VS
monitor + SS glasses
Edited by Marshock - 2/17/12 at 1:49am
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120Hz. 60 per eye. if you aren't using 3d on a 3d monitor you should be able to see a difference between 60fps and over that. If you are on a non 3d monitor, you shouldn't be able to see a difference above 60fps. when using 3d, the monitor will allocate 60hz per eye so can render the picture at a solid 60fps in 3d. of course, you need the GPU to do the bulk of the work to push it to 60fps and beyond.
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120Hz refresh rates.
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I don't get it..

Almost all the movies in this world are rated 25 FPS and besides the human eye can not identify separate motion pictures over that count, which means that for watching movies there is no difference between a 3D monitor and a non 3D monitor with or without glasses.

Confirm this.

As for gaming, i did not quite understand what do you mean "you can see over 60 FPS with 3D monitor" - what?
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i built a computer for my friend that has dual GTX 590s (quad sli) and with that i got him this monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222 he also got a 3D vision set from Nvidia (bought that from fry's) he was able to wear the Nvidia 3D vision glasses and play 90% of his games in 3D, i did try it for a few days and it is really really fantastic.. i was playing bf3, and lots of other old/new games all in 3D and it was amaaaazing...
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I don't get it..
Almost all the movies in this world are rated 25 FPS and besides the human eye can not identify separate motion pictures over that count, which means that for watching movies there is no difference between a 3D monitor and a non 3D monitor with or without glasses.
Confirm this.

Movies use motion blur to make it look more smooth, the average human can notice difference in frames well above 60FPS.
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Movies use motion blur to make it look more smooth, the average human can notice difference in frames well above 60FPS.

Perhaps i was not clear, so i repeat - i said that movies are rated at 25 FPS - blue ray, hdtv, lower hd, common or whatever! It makes no difference watching a movie in 3D monitor and in non 3D monitor, as the movie is rated at 25 FPS! What part of that do you not understand?
25 FPS will not turn into 60 or 120 FPS just because you have a monitor capable of 60 or 120 FPS!!!!

Tell me someone for sakes, that 3D monitors are not meant for movies, just for games! In my opinion they are over-hyped!!!!
Edited by Marshock - 2/17/12 at 3:51am
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Perhaps i was not clear, so i repeat - i said that movies are rated at 25 FPS - blue ray, hdtv, lower hd, common or whatever! It makes no difference watching a movie in 3D monitor and in non 3D monitor, as the movie is rated at 25 FPS! What part of that do you not understand?
25 FPS will not turn into 60 or 120 FPS just because you have a monitor capable of 60 or 120 FPS!!!!
Tell me someone for sakes, that 3D monitors are not meant for movies, just for games! In my opinion they are over-hyped!!!!

Overhyped by who?
They're not going to help for movies unless the movies are running above 60FPS.

They work because the glasses block your vision in one eye every 120th of a second alternating between both eyes so that you see 60 frames with each eye every second, this allows them to create the illusion of depth.
This would work at 30FPS per eye on a 60Hz monitor if it was supported but it isn't and it wouldn't be fluid enough to be better than normal 60FPS in games anyway.
120Hz exists because 60Hz isn't enough for the type of 3D used on a 120Hz monitor.
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Movies use motion blur to make it look more smooth, the average human can notice difference in frames well above 60FPS.

Movies don't use motion blur. Watching 3d movies in theaters has only 1 vertical image and 2 horizontal images making remaining resolution lines to be out of the picture causing it a interlaced picture. Interlaced picture = blurry output
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Perhaps i was not clear, so i repeat - i said that movies are rated at 25 FPS - blue ray, hdtv, lower hd, common or whatever! It makes no difference watching a movie in 3D monitor and in non 3D monitor, as the movie is rated at 25 FPS! What part of that do you not understand?
25 FPS will not turn into 60 or 120 FPS just because you have a monitor capable of 60 or 120 FPS!!!!
Tell me someone for sakes, that 3D monitors are not meant for movies, just for games! In my opinion they are over-hyped!!!!


I think whats missing in the explanation before me is that 'active' 3d glasses have to sync with the monitor so that the right frame is blocked on either the right eye, or left eye, at the right time. The active 3d glasses could not do this without 'connecting' wirelessly to the 3d monitor.
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As for gaming, i did not quite understand what do you mean "you can see over 60 FPS with 3D monitor" - what?

3D monitors are usually rated at 120hz. This means that the monitor can display 120 frames per second. This is specially useful If your PC can render more than 60 frames per second in games. If your playing in 2d and your getting ~100+ frames per second, you can really tell the difference. Normal operations in your OS, I use windows, appear to be much much smoother when you view them in a 120 frames per second capable screen, its an eye candy - albeit not too important.

Hope this helps!thumb.gif
Edited by ginoboy3 - 2/17/12 at 4:21am
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