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Already excuses to make the cost high, I don't report AMD having problems, I will wait patiently and if they are too high, I will go for the 7950.
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I guess it's a good thing then that a 5 year old $15 card can run 99% of games.....
    
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I guess it's a good thing then that a 5 year old $15 card can run 99% of games.....

Indulgence isn't always a sin. Why suffice with minimal graphics when you can have the best smile.gif
Edited by 98uk - 2/17/12 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

You do realise they get silicon to test for bugs and the like first? They're probably at A2 (Second revision) or even getting retail silicon and thoroughly testing it for bugs now.

i do know that, but i say the article talking about money so i assumed. my bad
 
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Indulgence isn't always a sin. Why suffice for minimal graphics when you can have the best smile.gif

Based on his sig I dont think he is relegated to "minimal graphics", I would know as I can still play most games on relatively high settings. Honestly I can still max most games with my 4870, it is only the bleeding edge DX11 games that cause issues.

*Note* I am still going for a huge upgrade in april

back on topic:
I would take this delay as a sign that Nvidia has indeed stuck to the massive die strategy. Doesn't this cause further problems later in the 28nm cycle, as nvidia will have no reasonable way to increase performance without having ridiculous temps/power consumption.

So kepler will eat southern islands because it is huge die, but will cost more. What is nvidia going to do when 8XXX series destroys kep because AMD actually increases die size??? Its not like they can go much bigger... or can they?

Just my thoughts on this strategy, seems foolish in the long term but maybe kepler will be soooo good that amd cannot compete at all.

Who knows.
Edited by Biorganic - 2/17/12 at 7:54am
 
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Low yields when switching to a new fabrication process should be anticipated. I'm sure AMD's yields are at a lower point than they would like to see as well.

Agreed, this would also explain the reasoning for the 79xx pricing. I have a feeling that Kepler will be more expensive than most would like, Fermi had similar yield/price issues.
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But... but... Nvidia viral marketing was pushing the rumor that Kepler would destroy the 7970 for 300$ on every internet forums! And newbies were all talking about a ''faster then 7970 for 300$!''... This stupid viral marketing will finally stop.

LOL. smile.gif

It's Nvidia. If Kepler ''is'' faster then the 7970 and the 580, it will cost MORE then those two cards.

They are just preparing the field for the high $$$ price they will ask for it... if it's fast. It's still all talk and no proof/no product for now...
    
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But... but... Nvidia viral marketing was pushing the rumor that Kepler would destroy the 7970 for 300$ on every internet forums! And newbies were all talking about a ''faster then 7970 for 300$!''... This stupid viral marketing will finally stop.

This doesn't mean that's not true...Even at $300 they'd likely be making a large profit, actual manufacturing is a very small part of the cost of a chip. R&D is the biggest cost.
    
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I thought Maxwell would be best from what we saw on the performance jump chart but okay.
Best GPU yet thumb.gif
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Nvidia can't seem to learn to be a little conservative with their GPUs, they always go big, which makes for awesome chips with low yields.
Let's hope so. To be quite frank, I don't mind paying a little bit extra if it means having awesome performance. I also don't want them to rush it out - if there are any problems, I would prefer to have them worked out. I am getting a little bit impatient, but as long as the final product is worth it.
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^this. look at intel drinking coffee and shouting "I'm stealing your nanometers!" while amd is miserable with their 32nm chips

Oh lord. This is going in my sig.
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Originally Posted by Farih View Post

Arent the new chips on AMD cards made by TSMC aswell ?
AMD isnt reporting any problems are they ?
Hurry up Nvidia, bring AMD some good competition.... Will be good for the price we have to pay smile.gif

"The company blames low yields of the next-generation code-named Kepler graphics chips that are made at TSMC’s 28nm node."
He never directly said it is TSMC's fault. He only said Kepler have low yield.


Anyhow, it is a bit too early to make excuse for the high price don't you think?
Edited by Erio - 2/17/12 at 8:24am
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